The II LDS Archives Q & A

8/26/2020

I'm getting a lot of good emails, some of which are asking similar questions. If you feel comfortable posting your public questions with my public answers that everyone can read and learn from, you can do so here. As always, no cost.

This is a section for questions directed to me that I can answer so others can read. This is not an open discussion board. If you are trying to be helpful and provide helpful answers to others, that would be appreciated. But this is not a forum, especially one to voice grievances against the church.

God bless.

Micah

305 Comments

Noelle Ray

8/28/2020 03:04:25 pm

Thank you!!

Micah

9/1/2020 03:52:32 pm

You are very welcome. God bless and stay safe.

Sam

11/11/2020 06:57:55 pm

Wondering your thoughts on vaccines? Most members do them. But wouldn't they fall into the category most members are falling for like BLM, communism, socialism, Ect? submitting our boddies to the government. Injecting aborted fetus cells and many other toxic toxic ingredients. Why would God be for that when he has give us guidance to keep our bodies clean. Plus the fact that he wants his children to come down here?

Micah

11/20/2020 09:19:17 am

Vaccines to me are like “protein bars”. People can point ot vaccines and clearly identify things that are wrong with them but people can also point to vaccines like polio and have eliminated serious diseases. Some people can point to protein bars that have 5g of protein, 15g and 20g of carbs and say “this is junk” but there are also proteins bars that have 20g of protein, 5g of fiber etc. This is different than BLM which had on its website, their platform of “the destruction of the nuclear family.” I’m sorry, but there just is no good BLM. One might be able to argue there is an ignorant BLM member but in making that argument the assumption is that ignorantly supporting something that is bad isn’t bad. If I was in a free country (which I’m not, I’m in Canada) and I could choose which vaccines my kids get and don’t, I’d personally look into each one. But in Canada and most places in the world you give your kids the vaccines the government tells you to or else they take your kids. So if the choices are having an autistic kid (worst case scenario) or having my kid taught and raised by some other family, I’d personally rather have autism and the chance of my kids dying younger. You also run into a conundrum, a trial of faith if you will, if the keys came out and told you to take the vaccine. If the Lord viewed that as a horrible sin, he would remove the leaders of the Church from their positions and replace them and rescind the direction. As it stands now, with no direct direction from the keys, it is left up to the individual and their wisdom with the amount of freedom they entail in their country of residence.

tropicalflower

8/29/2020 03:55:50 pm

*Micah has answered a lot of my questions, and I thought I'd share here for others that might be interested.
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Me:
Hey, in the video on Isaiah chapter three, you said that not the law of consecration but plural marriage would be the thing to make the world hate the Church and many members to leave. But what about the Counsel of Fifty? I don't know much about it at all since I just stumbled on this subject this morning. I'm curious about it. Are you posting any videos on it too?
Are all these things (law of consecration, plural marriage, and counsel of fifty) coming back before the Millennium? I hear about this restoration of all things... Will it be soon you think? Looking forward to move videos. Thanks.

Micah:
Things were restored and revealed as members were “able to receive them”. The things you mentioned were received in this order:

1. Law of consecration
2. Law of plural marriage
3. Counsel of Fifty

There are members who think that “counsel of fifty” gets restored BEFORE the restoration of celestial law and BEFORE the building of New Jerusalem, anyone thinking about this for more than 30 seconds should be able to see the flaw in this thinking. First off, if the order that we were able to bear was first consecration, second plural marriage, and third the political kingdom, and the Lord said that THAT was the “ensample” of how it would play out the second time- what makes you think that isn’t EXACTLY the order it will go down for us? Secondly, who are the counsel of fifty? They are the “kings” that Christ will rule as “king OF kings”. Well… Who was supposed to give people their inheritances? Who was to be THIS “servant”? Joseph Smith. No other. Meaning BEFORE the counsel of fifty even takes shape Joseph HAS to come back. Thirdly, what does this body do? Judge people. How does one judge? With laws. What laws does THIS body judge people according to? CELESTIAL LAW. So how will this body be formed to judge a people that doesn’t exist with laws we are not living?

1. You first get a people that can live the law (get people)
2. You secondly implement the law (agree on laws)
3. You then set geographical areas for your new people and new law (set boundaries)
4. Finally you “elect” or “ordain” your governing body (create governing body)

So for the church

1. You sift out the righteous remnant, this is created in tribulation (people)
2. You implement celestial law (law)
3. Zion has to be redeemed and New Jerusalem built (geographical area)
4. Counsel of fifty or something similar created to govern (government)
5. Ten tribes return
6. 144k chosen and purified
7. Christ comes to rule as king of kings (millennium for the saints begin at THIS time)

So to answer your question yes, those things have to restored before the “millennium”. There are people who will be with the saints during the millennium that practice plural marriage- if that wasn’t restored these members would be excommunicated, which would be a problem! I don’t see why the world would care if we practiced consecration, the Amish/Mennonites/etc. practice something similar and no one cares. I believe it will happen just as soon as Joseph comes back AND reveals himself to the church and raises the ensign. Once that starts things will move fast and those unprepared will not be able to keep up.

tropicalflower

8/29/2020 04:06:56 pm

Me:
Like I said, I'm watching your Isaiah playlist, it's a lot of information and things to happen; will you consider making a list of events and putting them in order of happening like in a timeline? It would be extremely helpful for your more distracted learners. Also, what about the tribulations, when will it start?

Micah:
The tribulations are to be “the worst of Jacob”, they are to be “more sore than any other time period of saints”… etc…etc… People who think that the tribulation started in 2017 make me scratch my head… You think the years between 2017-2020 were bad? America literally had the strongest economy it LITERALLY ever had, with unemployment numbers the lowest since they started recording them! The Church of Jesus Christ of LDS has never been more accepted world-wide since 1820! I am afraid that members WISH that the last three years were years of tribulation, but that is all it is, wishful thinking… I’m also afraid that those members won’t be able to stand when the real tribulation gets worse.

President Nelson said “times are going to get bad… somethings will simply seem unfair… many who you thought were your friends will betray you”. President Nelson was talking about tribulation coming down the pipe.

Joseph Smith might already be back. Like the Lord said, Joseph when he comes back will work “prudently” and “discreetly”, meaning general members and even the leadership of the church might not know for awhile. President Nelson JUST SAID “I will soon see Brother Joseph, Brigham Young, etc.”. He was either poking fun at death (which I disprove of, I hope this is not what he was doing) or he was saying the time of them coming back and revealing themselves to the leaders of the church IS SOON.

If you were to pencil in dates:

1. 2020; the start of the tribulation was sometime during this year. The desolating vexing sickness, economies collapse, famines will start in their infancy, political upheaval and problems in election, etc. etc. This lasts until 2027 with the last 3 ½ years being the worst.

2. Joseph Smith comes back and translates secret works of the secret combinations (Alma 37), restores all of celestial law, begins to form the “new zion’s army” that will redeem Jackson county, etc. etc.

3. Leaders of the church are called into Washington to report. This could be because of a multitude of reasons, the bringing back of consecration/plural marriage, etc. It could be because of the call to gather in certain places preparatory for coming events. It could be the “army” now being formed with intention of marching on Jackson County. It could be us moving back into Jackson County. It could be on the Church not accepting the results of the Presidential election, or incompliance to laws passed after the election (shutting down temples/churches for unforeseen future, etc.)

4. Around 2022-2023 the ten tribes return and missionaries are called home from gentile countries.

5. 2023-2024 New Jerusalem is built. 144k chosen purified etc. “These are those made perfect BECAUSE OF, or THROUGH the tribulation which has taken place”. But only those IN New Jerusalem will be freed from the tribulation at this time, the rest of saints worldwide are still in the thick of it.

6. 2024-2027 the anointing takes place and the 7th seal is opened. The millennium begins for the saints in New Jerusalem at this time. They are translated and won’t die until they reach 100 at which point they are resurrected in a twinkling of the eye. Interesting note is that President Nelson is 95. If he lives another 5 years that means he might be the first person translated!

7. 13 month civil war cleanses America, most likely the last 13 months of the 7 years. So 2025-2027.

8. 144k are sent out to gather the elect in at this time, bringing the rest of the saints into the program.

9. 2030-2033 we have the 3 year mission taking place in Old Jerusalem mirroring the Saviors ministry that took place exactly 2000 years ago. The temple is rebuilt, sacrifices start, etc.

10. Battle of Armageddon. Christ appears on the Mt. Etc etc during Passover 2033 mirroring his death during the Passover 33AD 2000 years ago.

11. Old Jerusalem rebuilds and prepares for great and dreadful day 2033+

12. ~ 2045-2050 great and dreadful day.

Important to note that even with this penciled timeline Featherstone’s letter would still be accurate- the saints in New Jerusalem would have been living with Christ the last 7 years. It would also make the prophecies of the Times of the Gentiles as well as the 10 tribes returning (Talmage) be accurate. This is obviously all penciled in and non-doctrine guess work. Just my thoughts. I want to be clear on that.

tropicalflower

8/29/2020 04:34:45 pm

Me:
I don't remember if you have talked about this in one of your videos. But what do you think of that sign in heaven of the Virgin that gave birth which happened on September 23rd 2017? Do you think that event and its date meant anything at all? What about the two solar eclipses and their dates, do they mean anything? Thank you.

Micah:
If you asked me this in 2010 or 2012, etc. (because we knew these things were taking place in the stars years and years before 2017) I would have said “they COULD be signs of events taking place around 2017”, such events as “the woman being given two wings for 3 ½ years” (a “call out” is what this is commonly called in the church), Zion’s army, Jackson County, etc.

In 2020 however? The years of tribulation have NOT started, let alone been in swing for 3 ½ years, so the eclipses don’t book end the 7 years tribulation, and none of the events I listed above occurred so the “woman in the sky” can’t be tied to anything concrete (other than a warning). I personally never believed that “the sun being darkened” referred to a “solar or total solar eclipse” so I would never peg those as that specific event. People in the 1800’s knew and used those terms and yet Joseph, Brigham, etc. NEVER used “eclipse”, they said “the sun will be darkened”. The Book of Mormon which was prepared for us to know and prepare accordingly gave us 3 Nephi 8 as a description of “the sun darkened” and the events surrounding it. An earthquake followed by “mists” that are released that block the sun. Such earthquakes are recorded to have taken place in the heartland of America with the same effect- gas released that darkened the sky and prevented matches and burning.

If however you viewed the eclipse and the woman signs in 2017 as the mark of “the last 3 ½ years of plenty” then a lot more things make sense atm. 7 years plenty followed by 7 years trouble with 3 ½ of the “years of trouble” being “somewhat avoidable” for the woman who was given “wings of an eagle” (“call out”) and preserved “in the wilderness” ONLY if she “prepared”. The sign was given in 2017, and Nelson in 2019 said “time to PREPARE is RUNNING OUT…” followed by “2020 will be a hinge point…” and followed by “the time is coming when those who do not obey the Lord will be separated from those who do”… 2017-2020/2021 might be the last years to prepare, ie. “the last 3 ½ years of plenty”. The conference in October 2020 as well as Apr 2021 will be huge if this is accurate. They are literal “cut off points” and the start of the years of tribulation. This is what I was figuring around 2018-2019 but was concerned because “the vexation sickness from far had not swept the land” and I knew it had to soon if that interpretation would be correct. Turns out it was. The next thing to come down the pipe would be “earthquakes, floods, hailstorms, etc. that birth famine”. If these kick off within the next 2-8 months than it is official. The second eclipse would be around half way through the tribulation marking the “x” people love around New Jerusalem which would be started to be build around that time, as the ten tribes (if the dates are accurate) would be returning 2022-2023, around two years into the 7 years tribulation. 3 ½ years of tribulation would be mostly avoided for those “prepared” who were “given two wings and preserved in the wilderness”.

Also, interestingly enough, the church started a “personal finance self reliance” course around 7 years ago for “temporal salvation”. 2014 President Monson wrote a now famous piece called “are we prepared?”, which could have kickstarted the last 7 years of plenty to prepare. This would paint Nelson’s remarks that “time to prepare is running out” in a very clear light.

tropicalflower

8/29/2020 04:43:31 pm

Me:
Who is the first beast? Sorry I haven't picket that up. I'm in the middle of your most recent video. Who is the second beast too?

Micah:
We know more about the 4 beasts of Daniel than we do John the Revelator’s two beasts and yet people seem to act like John’s beast are a given and we don’t know anything about Daniel’s beasts (ie. We have hundreds of interpretations of Daniel’s beasts but yet only a few of John’s, should be backwards). I can speculate on what I think are the two beasts in Revelation but anybody (without the keys) who claims to know without a doubt what these two beasts are specifically is lying. The way I dissect truth personally is
1. Concrete words of the prophet Joseph Smith

2. The standard works, with greater priority to the Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants

3. Concrete words from prophets and apostles who surrounded Joseph Smith

4. Modern prophets and apostles

I do not accept anything written by “scholars” (a fancy word for somebody who has no keys, I could call myself a scholar, it doesn’t mean anything). Procedure changes, doctrine does not. If President Nelson came out tomorrow and said people need to do 10 jumping jacks before they take the sacrament I would gladly submit, that is procedure. But if he came out tomorrow and said “there is no such thing as the 3 degrees of glory” or that homosexuality is ok etc. I would declare him a fallen prophet because that is changing doctrine. Meaning if I can find a quote from Joseph Smith (which I have, its in the TPJS book) that says “the beasts of Daniel had to do with beastly kingdoms at Daniel’s time but everything that John saw had to deal with things yet future of John’s time” and then I read a quote in the manual, lets say, that says “what John saw when the 1st seal was open pertains to the first thousand years of earth’s temporal history” I throw it out. My allegiance, my testimony is first Jesus Christ, second Joseph Smith, third the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and its leaders. There is a lot of speculation about the beasts of Daniel and the beasts of John and I could give you my speculation if you want but it is just that, speculation. You also would have to understand how I prioritize information. People who view Daniel’s beasts as being kingdoms post John the Revelator and people viewing John’s book as not being post John start off with the assumption that Joseph Smith was wrong. I don’t make that assumption. I explain in the video characteristics that John’s beasts have and I hypothesize based on those characteristics. I believe at the moment that the best identity we can give John the Revelator’s beasts are:

The whore of all the earth: this is the entity that mounts/subjugates the dragon kingdom. Nephi identifies the whore as Babylon, as the great and abominable church. He also is shown that it forms in gentile countries. Its motive is to get gain.
The 7 headed, 10 horned beast: characteristics of this kingdom are that it hates the whore that is riding it and that it is a conglomeration of the kingdoms that Daniel saw way back in B.C. These countries include modern day Turkey, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia etc. So if the whore is “the West” what entity, group of countries, religion etc would constitute a group that hate the whore? Another thing we know about this beast kingdom is that the anti-christ (which I will get to next) shares the same religion with this kingdom. So add to the equation that that series of countries, religion etc has to also teach anti-Christ doctrine. I believe there is only one thing that fits those characteristics perfectly and that is “the nation of Islam”. I also find it fascinating that they refer to it as that, the nation of Islam. Name another religion that believes it is a nation or kingdom, there is only one other, us! LDS believe we are/will be the literal kingdom of God.
The two horned goat: we know John that this is the false prophet or anti-Christ who will breathe life back into the dragon kingdom. We also know that horns represent people, leaders or seats of power- so this could represent two people. I believe this is the 13th Imam and the false Jesus that Islam teaches about. Two horns that spoke as if it was the lamb but yet spoke the words of the dragon. The very first thing that they do is burn Babylon to the ground, they attack the whore that has been riding the dragon kingdom. We know that Islam hates the West and Israel. After they burn down Babylon and they figure out that they can’t get America and the 10 tribes, their focus changes to Israel. I don’t believe that these are the actions of Catholics, Presbyterians, Hindus etc. I believe these are the actions of Islam. And considering the history which I go over in my video, the deception always comes from the loins of Cain, or

Continuation:

8/29/2020 04:46:25 pm

Continuation:
the deception always comes from the loins of Cain, or in this case the loins of Ismael and more specifically Islam.

tropicalflower

8/29/2020 04:52:48 pm

Me:
Do you think the Ensign and the meeting of the prophet in Washington to advise the president might have already happened?

Micah:
I think Joseph Smith might already be back, I'm waiting for them to actually get called in to the courts in Washington. I think part of the reason why they are called in is due to the restoration of celestial law. If celestial law begins to be restored within the next year and Washington calls the leaders into the courts of Washington over it and they testify that in 3.5 yrs, etc etc. we'll have a good idea where we are. The Abraham treaty needed to be there before this event.

tropicalflower

8/29/2020 05:06:14 pm

Me:
You said in your most recent video that since after pres. Benson the prophets have been "soft" on people for a reason and that they have shared this reason. When have they shared the reason for being "soft"?

Micah:
For a couple of references on your question read these talks: President Benson’s Our Immediate Responsibility and President Monson’s Are We Prepared? Those two are a good place to start.

tropicalflower

8/29/2020 05:11:40 pm

Me:
Some say the New Jerusalem will come down from heaven (Revelation 21, Ether 13). Is it going to come down from heaven or is it going to be built here by the saints and the 10 lost tribes?

Micah:
My next video is about New Jerusalem but I have answered this question in other of my videos. The city of Enoch was called “the city of holiness, even Zion” and the New Jerusalem will be called “Zion, Mount Zion, the New Jerusalem. Etc” When the city of Enoch returns it will be large enough for people to think, “its a planet, its a comet”. Its place is here in America, some have hypothesized even the Gulf of Mexico. We build New Jerusalem hand in hand with angels, the plans come down from heaven, Joseph will come down from heaven and even Jesus Christ will come down from heaven. There is a flow from heaven down. But when prophets say “and I saw the New Jerusalem coming down from heaven” you can in your mind substitute that with “I saw the sign of the Son of Man” and you will have a much clearer understanding of what’s happening.

tropicalflower

8/29/2020 05:18:32 pm

Me:
Why do most LDS youtube channels believe we're in the 7th seal? Many people say they've prayed and received the answer that the 7th seal started in year 2000.

Micah:
Praying about the 7th seal being opened as a non prophet is a moot point to begin with- you don’t have the keys and God will not and cannot answer you. You cannot receive revelation for the world. Period. As soon as somebody has said “I’ve prayed and God has told me that we are in the 7th seal” you can mark that individual down as being in apostasy, you cannot receive revelation pertinent to the world and then share it with the world. There is no difference between this and saying “I’ve prayed about a tent city and we are all going to go there”. Even if the Lord told you to do that, that is for you only. As soon as you share directional revelation to the church or to the world that is new doctrine you are in open rebellion and apostasy, whether one realizes it or not.

tropicalflower

8/29/2020 05:26:38 pm

Me:
I understood from your previous explanations that Jesus would return BEFORE the 144k are sent out into the workd. I thought the 144k and the people living in the NJ would be translated and already have Jesus living among them (and already be crowned) before the 144k are sent out.

Micah:
Much like “Zion, City of Holiness” the “second coming” is broken into 3- one second coming is Jackson County (which also will be a city of Holiness), the 2nd is old Jerusalem (Mount of Olives, which will also be a city of Holiness), and lastly to the world (which at the Great and Dreadful Day the city of Zion, Enoch, will return). Even though Saints in New Jerusalem will be blessed with the presence of the Savior, this does not mean A. The work will cease and B. That members worldwide will automatically enjoy the same blessings that the saints in New Jerusalem will receive. The 144,000 are sent out to bring people into the Church of the Firstborn, into New Jerusalem. This obviously means that Jesus is in the city, but people in the world aren’t in that program. The Saints of God during this time will be working harder than they ever have, because we know at this time genealogy books will be brought down and temple work will continue night and day to prepare for “the Lord’s second coming” but not the Lord’s coming to Jackson County, it is referring to the Great and Dreadful Day. We need to complete “the chain” to Adam.

Ryan Nickel

8/30/2020 04:23:51 pm

I’d like to see scriptural support for plural marriage or celestial marriage? Doctrine and Covenants 42 sets forth the Celestial Law which includes consecration and not plural wives and then section 49:16 says “ it is lawful that he should have one wife”.

Micah

8/30/2020 06:20:34 pm

I go over this and give the best reference for it in my video/paper, Celestial Law. The chapter is Doctrine and Covenants 132. It is too long of a chapter to simply post in here. Reading the chapter you will find that the Lord uses "the new and everlasting covenant of marriage", "celestial marriage", "plurality of wives", "my law", "fulness of my gospel/law" etc all interchangeably. When the church stopped practising open plural marriage in the flesh many members thought that they couldn't make it to the highest degree of the celestial kingdom anymore because everyone understood that celestial marriage meant plural marriage. The leaders had to come out and specify that not living plural marriage was not a sin on them and that it will not be a requirement to attain eternal life, but that it is obviously "still there" as part of the fulness of the law.

jmvyoutellme

9/1/2020 07:34:41 am

I caught in your video that members would declare Joseph Smith to be a fallen prophet/ not accept him back and follow him... Seems like if there was someone resurrected in front of me I would know that he was a prophet and supposed to be there, no matter how hard of things he was asking me to do..
Just wondering why people will reject the risen prophet? Will we not be able to tell that he is a resurrected being? Will members think he is an imposter or something like that? Or will we know, and just not be willing to follow the difficult counsel?
Thanks

Scott

9/1/2020 03:37:17 pm

I thought about this too, and two thoughts came to mind. 1. I’ve been an active member all my life and somehow I’ve not heard of this happening. The book Visions of Glory depicts a future general conference, after a major US catastrophe, where Joseph Smith and Christ are present. I don’t take that book as fact but when I read it I just thought ”Cool!”. But that book was some guys experience during an NDE, which can be subjective, or specific for the person and the future may not really be reflected. What Micah presented gobsmacked me! So some people in the church will be just as shocked, and they may not have someone to walk them through it in a satisfactory way. That’s why being able to discern by the spirit is so important. I have friends who I have discussed this issue with since watching micah’s Presentation and they are too impatient to listen to long form lectures like Micah presents, and just want to go with their gut, which is startled. They mistake that feeling for the spirit. Big mistake, I fear, for too many. The other thought, 2. is that when and if JS is resurrected and begins to play a role, what makes you think that he will manifest himself to you, or anyone else you know? No offense intended. I’d say that yes, a manifestation of a resurrected individual, should they choose to make themselves known to you, might be convincing. But do you realize how many members of the church have never been in the presence of a prophet of God. I’m 53 and it has only happened twice. So the likelihood a large portion of the church’s members would be getting that kind of personal manifestation is small. Most people would only get to see him on tv, or hear a recording, or just the testimony of others. And honestly, would you be able to pick a live Joseph Smith out of a lineup? All I’ve ever seen of him is represented in paintings and or a mold taken of him on his deathbed. Like anything important in this life members will need to have the spirit as their guide to help them discern the truth. Maybe that’s why President Nelson said “I renew my plea for you to do whatever it takes to increase your spiritual capacity to receive personal revelation.“ see president Nelson’s talk “Hear Him”, in the April 2020 conference.

Micah

9/1/2020 04:18:01 pm

Jesus Christ after his resurrection appeared to two of his followers on the road. He walked with them for miles and apparently even ate with them. They somehow didn't recognize him until after he left. And how they recognized him was very telling, "did our hearts within us not burn?" It wasn't what they saw, heard or experienced that brought them to a realization of what had happened, it was the spirit, "Hear Him". The three Nephites who were translated apparently had people attempt to murder them, repeatedly, it didn't get people to believe in them or stop trying to kill them. Don't you find it odd that we are not allowed to know the 3 Nephites' names? And we don't have a single picture of Joseph Smith?

A question that I would commonly ask on my mission is, "If God himself appeared in the room and told you to do 10 jumping jacks, would you do it?" (I tracted a lot on my mission and I baptized a lot of people) You would be shocked (maybe) to find out that the majority of people do not immediately say, "I'd get up and do the jumping jacks". A lot of people would ask "why" or that they wouldn't do it until God gave them a satisfactory answer to why they should, others would say they would not do it because God would never ask them to do such a thing, thus deciding what God can and can't say. I always told my companions "if God himself could not convince these people to act there is nothing we could do for them"

"By the voice of myself or my servants it is the same". Ask yourself, how many things have prophets of God asked us to do that we as members refuse to do- get out of debt, get a food storage, open our mouths and do missionary work etc. Why would we think that the church is going to wholeheartedly wrap its arms around celestial law just because somebody came back from the dead? Jesus himself prophesied of the return of Joseph Smith and said "and there shall be among them those who will not believe it, although a man shall declare it unto them." (3 Nephi 21:9) But the Lord prophesied of Joseph Smith's return long before this when he taught the parable of Lazarus and the rich man. The rich man, finding himself in spirit prison, told Father Abraham to bring somebody back from the dead to convince his family of the reality of the afterlife. Father Abraham's response was, "If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." If people don't believe it now, they won't accept it then.

tropicalflower

9/1/2020 10:58:52 am

I watched a video that made me see the church leaders being called to washington SOON to explain why the Church won't close down while all other churches will be doing so (forced to do so). https://youtu.be/f3mQv5HvW_w

Micah

9/1/2020 03:56:08 pm

This can very likely be one of the catalysts for this event!

Veronica Marlow

9/2/2020 12:13:37 am

Dear Micah and Ashley, thank you so much for all the work you put into these papers and videos! They have enlighten me. I've learned so much since through your work. It truly has blessed my life!
There's no doubt that you are an instrument in the hands of the Lord to bring light and knowledge to your brothers and sisters in the gospel and to help preparing us for the Second Coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
I've always loved the work of Elders Neal A. Maxwell and Bruce R. McConkie and I'm loving your work. Please keep on feeding us with more gospel "meat".
I'm craving for more!
May our Heavenly Father continue blessing you and your sweet family. ♥️

Micah

9/2/2020 09:08:20 pm

Thank you for your very kind words. As I keep saying, the only reason why I'm doing this is to hopefully help others increase their testimony of the Savior and the keys of God and deepen their understanding of the doctrines taught in his restored church. Neal A Maxwell spoke to my heart growing up. To this day, if I hear the recorded voice of Neal A Maxwell or Gordon B Hinckley, I immediately tear up. They could be ordering Chinese, it doesn't matter, they spoke to my heart.

God bless Veronica, keep the faith, we both know the church is true, let's prove it!

Ryan Nickel

9/2/2020 06:09:21 am

You asked in your Reference #1 paper, where are the faithful intellectuals? The LDS Church has chased them out. Look at even Hyrum Andrus and the Skousens who you've mentioned. What happened to them?

Why?

What happens when the church's narrative and even history is changed or white washed? You lose intellectuals with integrity.

Why did Joseph Fielding Smith as the Church Historian cut out the only First Vision account written by Joseph Smith's own hand and hide it in his private safe for almost 40 years?

Here's the actual image from the Joseph Smith Papers where you can see it was taped back in.

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-circa-summer-1832/1

I like what you're doing and who you're doing it for, but you also have to know LDS Inc. for what it is. A corporation.

We're no longer The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We're the Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints DBA The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Here's a diagram:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZzgId9kpDdM/TUAhP5GgMfI/AAAAAAAAA0Q/0AbXbUEWOoo/s1600/finances.gif

In 3 Ne. 27, what does the Savior say about the name of his church? What should its name be?

I know you limit your reading to only church approved sources, so you're not going to be as well read as others.

The church went into apostasy and lost the name of Christ during Joseph's ministry. Look at the title page of the Doctrine and Covenants or the name of the church that built the Kirtland Temple? What was the name of that Church?

What was the ORIGINAL name of the church that Joseph restored? Hint: It was the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Why did Heber J. Grant remove the Lectures of Faith, the doctrine part, from the Doctrine and Covenants in 1921?

Again, I think you have some wonderful insights, but there are wolves in sheep's clothing even in the hierarchy of the church. Ezra Taft Benson and Harold B. Lee both said as much.

So coming full circle, why are there NOT many who are willing to stand up and teach bold doctrine? They will either be silenced by the church because it's not coming from GA's or their conscience will force them out if told to choose loyalty over truth. Why was Ron Pullman forced to change his conference talk and read it to an empty tabernacle for publication?

I only share with family now. Many don't want to hear the truth and church leaders who don't understand the scriptures are intimidated by it and would rather refer to a church manual for help rather than rely on God's word and inspiration.

These are just my honest observations.

tropicalflower

9/2/2020 09:49:42 pm

Just found this. Have you seen it? Just wanted to share.
https://youtu.be/M8JYNNNghSI

continuation

9/2/2020 09:51:12 pm

Pilgrim Hypothesis - Tim Ballard

Micah

9/3/2020 09:47:46 am

Tim Ballard makes appearances as well in the Joseph Smith Foundation documentaries. He is a solid member with a solid track record. The video (which is about his book), which we watched, focused obviously on the Pilgrims and their eventual revolutionary war. It made me think of the Abinadi paper that I just posted.
1. Zeniff was "overzealous" to inhabit their "promised land"
2. When they get there, there is famine, death, strife
3. They make deals with the king
4. They fight a revolutionary war and win by the grace of God
5. Nephites become Lamanites ie. they forsake the covenant

This is what he went into but he wasn't talking about this group in the Book of Mormon, he was talking about the Pilgrims and their story was identical. He ends his video by simply saying "this is how we save America, we restore the covenant." In the Abinadi parallel (and what we know happens next from understanding the macro timeline) we understand 3 Nephi 24:
1 And it came to pass that he commanded them that they should write the words which the Father had given unto Malachi, which he should tell unto them. And it came to pass that after they were written he expounded them. And these are the words which he did tell unto them, saying: Thus said the Father unto Malachi—Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me, and the Lord whom ye seek shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of THE COVENANT, whom ye delight in; behold, he shall come, saith the Lord of Hosts.

Joseph Smith, "my messenger", (Abinadi in the parallel) needs to come back.

jmvyoutellme

9/3/2020 06:23:46 pm

Just a quick question regarding the 3rd temple to be built in Jerusalem. I know that the position you state in one of your videos is that this temple will be built by proper authority under the direction of proper keys, i.e. by the Church of Jesus Christ.
Do you have any quotes or anything like that to go along with that belief? Is it possible that the temple could be built by another group (the jews) before they are eventually brought into the Church? Not saying that it has to be that way, just wondering if there is something a prophet has said that would make you believe otherwise.
Thanks

Micah

9/3/2020 07:02:24 pm

Quote from the D&C Manual:

Doctrine and Covenants 68:14–21. The office of bishop and descendants of Aaron

At the time the revelation recorded in Doctrine and Covenants 68 was given, Edward Partridge served as the only bishop in the Church. However, the Lord promised that in due time He would call “other bishops” (D&C 68:14). A month later, on December 4, 1831, the Lord called Newel K. Whitney to serve as the bishop for Ohio (see D&C 72:1–8). Those called to serve as bishops were to be high priests in good standing, called and appointed by the First Presidency. However, the Lord also revealed that firstborn sons of Aaron’s literal descendants have a right to this office by virtue of lineage if called, found worthy, and ordained by the Presidency of the High Priesthood (the First Presidency). Anciently, Moses’ brother Aaron was the presiding high priest of the Aaronic Priesthood. In ancient Israel, only descendants of Aaron could hold the office of priest, and the high priest was selected from among the firstborn of his descendants.

President Joseph Fielding Smith explained that the provision about descendants of Aaron in Doctrine and Covenants 68:15–21 refers to the office of Presiding Bishop of the Church: “This has reference only to the one who presides over the Aaronic Priesthood. It has no reference whatever to bishops of wards. Further, such a one must be designated by the First Presidency of the Church and receive his anointing and ordination under their hands. … In the absence of knowledge concerning such a descendant, any high priest, chosen by the Presidency, may hold the office of Presiding Bishop” (Doctrines of Salvation, comp. Bruce R. McConkie [1956], 3:92–93; see also D&C 107:13–16, 69–83).
END QUOTE

Having a right to keys after "being called, found worthy and ordained by the First Presidency" does not mean "they can do whatever they want- they have the priesthood because of blood!" That couldn't be further from the truth if you tried.

We allow people to go through our "temples" during open houses because at the time they are nothing more than a building. It takes the priesthood acting under the proper authority of the keys before the Lord accepts the house as a House of Holiness and makes it thus. I actually have the priesthood and am a worthy priesthood holder- if I raised millions of dollars and built a "temple" in the Middle East and started doing sacrifices at the temple, you wouldn't accept it and shouldn't accept it. Obviously the Lord wouldn't accept it.

God bless

Lcarter

11/1/2020 03:07:55 pm

Ether 13:5 "And he spake also concerning the house of Israel, and the (a)Jerusalem from whence (b)Lehi should come—after it should be destroyed it should be built up again, a (c)holy city unto the Lord; wherefore, it could not be a new Jerusalem for it had been in a time of old; but it should be built up again, and become a holy city of the Lord; and it should be built unto the house of Israel."
Rev. 11:3
3 "And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth."
Both of these scriptures are just a few that refer to the city and temple as being holy and as being given authority/power from God. Because God is a God of order they could build the city and temple but they must be dedicated and cleansed by (and to quote me new friend) "the keys."
From the dedication if the holy land on the church website.
"...on Sunday, October 24, Hyde exited the city, crossed the Kidron Valley, and ascended the Mount of Olives. There he offered a prayer dedicating Jerusalem specifically “for the gathering together of Judah’s scattered remnants” and also more broadly as a land of promise for all the scattered children of Abraham.4 After the prayer, he fashioned a stone altar to commemorate the occasion...
Between 1873 and 1933, several other dedicatory prayers for the Holy Land were offered by later Apostles."

jmvyoutellme

9/3/2020 06:27:10 pm

Also, is it possible that the 144,000 could be assembled by all or mostly resurrected individuals? If so, is it possible that this group could already be assembled?
(again, not trying to suggest absolutes. Just curious if there is something that you know that would negate this as a possibility.)

Micah

9/3/2020 06:53:07 pm

The calling of men into the 144,000 is not the same as the ordination or setting apart as thus. You can be called and sustained but until you are set apart you are not actually "it". Joseph said that the calling to fill that number has already begun but no one had been set apart for it- they are an extension, an arm, of the Church of the Firstborn, which isn't here yet. A lot of them could be resurrected, but until they get resurrected, the Church of the Firstborn established, and they are set apart as thus, they are not the 144,000 in actuality. So no, they could not already be assembled.

Noelle Ray

9/6/2020 08:56:28 am

I have a question about the Anti-Christ. I have been hearing the Anti-Christ will be instrumental in establishing the Peace Treaty. Because of that, I have heard speculation that it could be Trump or his son in law who has also been working on the treaty. I don't think it is either of them personally. But, is it true that we can identify the Anti-Christ by his affiliation with the Peace Treaty? Some people believe the Anti Christ is more of a group than a specific person.

It is my understanding that the peace treaty is not signed by all the important parties yet, so it hasn't really kicked off the 7 years...right? Is that the "line in the sand" to show that the 7 years of tribulation has started in earnest?

This is kind of a dumb question, but, I have been thinking about the hard times ahead as far as electricity, water etc. I have heard it said that the Anti Christ will be believed by a lot of people. It seems like he would need the media to be active/TV/Internet in order to get the word out of all the miracles he is doing...

Micah

9/8/2020 08:19:30 am

The deal that is to be struck between the "Anti-Christ" and Israel will only be between those two entities as far as I've read. Ergo, it's an entire separate treaty that occurs after a lot of these events. As the old alliances break and as countries collapse, the countries left standing will be scrambling to make new treaties/alliances/stand downs. There are many people who speculate (due to Daniel and a few other places) that the justification for the breaking of that treaty will be because of the sacrifices once again being held in Jerusalem. If that is the case, it fits the timeline because the sacrifices will not be accept by the Lord in Jerusalem until the 144,000 are sent there and a temple built. I personally believe that the beast kingdom in the religion, is "the group" and the Anti-Christ is an individual. Like I said in my paper/video Satan:The Great Counterfeiter. The Anti-Christ is not somebody with just an inflated sense of self-ego. If that's all that was required, a lot of members might be Anti-Christs. The Anti-Christ teaches anti-Christ doctrine, that's what makes him the Anti-Christ. Anti-Christ doctrine is that Jesus isn't the Christ, the Son of God and Redeemer of the world. He enforces this anti-Christ doctrine by force and capital punishment. In my wildest dreams I can't imagine Trump doing this. Another feature of the Anti-Christ is his hatred for Judaism and Israel. Jared Kushner is a "Make Israel Great Again" "Israel First" Zionist. I don't see him secretly wishing the destruction of Israel.

A lot of people think that there are only 7 years of tribulation. There are 7 years of tribulation for Ephraim and 7 years of tribulation for Judah. Ephraim's comes first and the building of New Jerusalem comes first and THEN follows that of Judah and Israel's. Remember that everything in this time period (including the 21 years of silence which is just three periods of 7) is broken up into sevens. For example, seven years of tribulation for Ephraim, resulting in the redemption and building of New Jerusalem, the second coming of the Savior and the opening of the 7th seal. Then you have around 7 years of tribulation for Judah resulting in the second coming of the Savior to them. You then have around 14 years to rebuild Jerusalem, unite the two world capitals, placement of the 10 tribes back in their land of inheritances, culminating at the end with the second coming of the Savior to the world. Remember however, that there really isn't much point in speculating now with what happens after New Jerusalem. Why? Because after New Jerusalem the Saints that are there will know all things. So for us the most important thing is to recognize the events leading up to the redemption and building of New Jerusalem (ie. the 10 virgins) because this is the only event that will catch the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints asleep.

The Savior describes in great detail all of the things he plans on shutting down over here in America in 3 Nephi 21 after Joseph Smith returns. Verses 10-25. Just because these things might not be running in one country doesn't mean they won't be running in another. And just because we might not have the internet does not mean word can't spread fast.

Noelle Ray

9/6/2020 08:59:20 am

And they shall be gathered into the garners, that they are not wasted. Yea, they shall not be beaten down by the storm at the last day; yea, neither shall they be harrowed up by the whirlwinds; but when the storm cometh they shall be gathered together in their place, that the storm cannot penetrate to them; yea, neither shall they be driven with fierce winds whithersoever the enemy listeth to carry them. But behold, they are in the hands of the Lord of the harvest, and they are his; and he will raise them up at the last day. Blessed be the name of the our God; let us sing to his praise, yea, let us give thanks to his holy name, for he doth work righteousness forever. Alma 26: 5-8
“Thus, clearly, the Lord has placed the responsibility for directing the work of gathering in the hands of the leaders of the Church to whom he will reveal his will where and when such gatherings would take place in the future.

It would be well--before the frightening events concerning the fulfilment of all God's promises and predictions are upon us, that the Saints in every land prepare themselves and look forward to the instruction that shall come to them from the First Presidency of this Church as to where they shall be gathered and not be disturbed in their feelings until such instruction is given to them as it is revealed by the Lord to the proper authority.” Harold B Lee

I have always thought the I could count on the first presidency to guide us in these last days, but I have also heard that there will be no general warning to the church...also, with all the emphasis on HEAR HIM, I am wondering if we will be left more to ourselves...

Micah

9/8/2020 08:35:35 am

I don't believe that there will be a general warning countdown. They have told us and told us again and again to prepare and how to prepare both temporally and spiritually. I believe that there will be a "callout" by the priesthood to designated places of safety. But I also don't believe that there will be a "warning". I will explain this using twisters: if you live in twister country and the prophets have warned you time and time again that twisters will come and they listed off all of the things you need to do to prepare for that, they've also said there will be places of safety from the twister designated for you. But they will not be telling you "your farm is going to be the first place to get hit" they are simply going to say, "time to go to these locations". And if you don't move, you get hit. I believe President Monson summarized this contrast perfectly when he said “When the time for decision arrives, the time for preparation is past.” Meaning we have a time to prepare, no outright warning and then a decision needs to be made. I think that "Hearing Him" has to do with what the Lord wants you to do to prepare. As President Monson said, if you haven't prepared the decision is moot. Learning to "Hear Him" while being completely unprepared is equally vain.

Micah

9/7/2020 05:31:33 pm

I'm getting a lot of emails pointing me to the Ensign magazine ending. I figure it might be easier to just post my response here as well in case others have similar thoughts (probably not worth a video):

"The original Nauvoo temple, on the weathervane, it was actually supposed be Joseph Smith as an angel blowing his trumpet. It was later that it was changed to Moroni. When the earthquake happened in Salt Lake and the trumpet fell out of the angel Moroni’s hand, my first thought was, “Joseph wants his trumpet back.” Shortly after we had the image of the church changed from the angel Moroni to Jesus Christ and now the Ensign magazine dissolved. President Nelson just recently said (about closing the temples), “I found myself asking, ‘What would I say to the Prophet Joseph Smith? What would I say to Brigham Young, Wilford Woodruff, and the other presidents on up to President Thomas S. Monson? I’m going to meet them soon.’ “ We learn from Isaiah and the Savior that when Joseph Smith is resurrected he will work prudently (secretly) behind the scenes for a time. This includes from the leaders of the church. Heber C. Kimball explained what Joseph will be during that time, “After my body is laid in the grave, and after the Prophet Joseph has received his resurrected body, he probably will not suffer my body to remain long in the ground, but will be apt to say, ‘Come and let us go and help Brother Heber to again take his body.’ “Do you suppose that if Brother Brigham were to die tomorrow, and if Joseph is resurrected, which he will be so soon as his mission is filled in the spirit world, that Joseph will permit Brother Brigham’s body to remain any longer in the grave than may be requisite? No, for he then will have need of the assistance of his faithful resurrected brethren, as he now has of faithful spirits.” I believe the leaders of the church are preparing to meet these men. I don’t believe President Nelson was making a morbid joke about his death. "

Also, I'd be curious of your thoughts on this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxB5NhlfWig&t=1774s

It was posted by a "Brother Guerrero" on September 7

https://youtu.be/F0rmvq05an0

This was a video of mine posted September 6. My question is, "who else thinks Brother Guerrero watches/reads my videos/papers?"

:)

Still waiting to hear back from him about an interview.

God bless!

Noelle Ray

9/9/2020 02:55:46 pm

I just listened to your description of Isaiah 8 (ish--I am listening back to back so I can't remember exactly which one) regarding the women's veil in the temple. I like to think of the changes in the temple as preparing the church for the terestrial kingdom (moving up from the telestial). When the bride is ready for marriage, she unveils her face, meaning the time is short or the wedding is close...and no longer needing to go from telestial to terrestrial clothing...just straight to terrestrial. Your suggestion of women losing their glow or righteousness doesn't really seem like something the Lord would do in the temple...like, Hey, you failed so now you don't have to wear the veil. I don't know...not feeling that one.

Micah

9/9/2020 08:58:55 pm

There are two ways to look at the veil in that context:

1. The reasons for women using a veil in a temple are unknown and unspecified and therefore have no value, ergo women should have the right to choose whether or not they want to use one. If this is correct than obviously my thought are incorrect.

2. The reasons for women using a veil in the temple are exactly what I said they were (there is no other explanation for them save for the story of Moses and Jewish customs). Simply put it was a symbolic representation of a women’s spiritual power that she had to veil to protect everyone else. If this is correct there isn’t a situation in which a woman gets to remove the veil by choice and yet it somehow means “I’m getting more righteous” in fact, if she was getting more righteous (telestial to terrestrial) she would need “a thicker veil”. That’s how the symbolism works. Removing of the veil at a wedding was added later as a “Westernized” adaptation for the “kiss the bride” moment which doesn’t exist in sealings, old Jewish customs etc.

Now if you are part of group one I’m utterly incorrect. However, if you believe that the veil held/holds symbolic weight you should as a woman take offense to being told “you no longer need a veil”. Much like I described with the triangle between Joseph Smith, the Book of Mormon and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, there isn’t a situation where the veil means something special and the removal of it means you are more special; the veil either has no meaning and therefore toss it, or it had meaning and being told you no longer have to wear it should hurt.

Noelle Ray

9/11/2020 08:38:33 am

My original thought, when I went through the temple after the changes, was that it was more "policitcally correct" (the parts dealing with women submitting to their husbands...and even the veil thing felt like it was taken away because it may have been offensive to some...That thought made me a little sad to think we had to change to conform to the world. It had never bothered me at all. I never felt like it took away my relationship with the Lord to have to submit to my husband.

My other thought was that in the near future, we are going to be doing a TON of endowments for the departed so it was good it was streamlined.

I just don't like the other argument as far as the mask goes (as women being less radiant) because it seems like the temple shows us possibilites instead of the glum reality. I can't say I don't agree with our fall from glory so to speak. After reading the Saints books, I was so inspired by the examples of the women in the early church. They were absolutely amazing. And knowing we as a group are so focused on the things of this world (our houses, our clothes, bodies) to the point that they are our idols is sad. I think we are going to need the walk to Missouri to sanctify us!!

Scott

9/14/2020 02:31:51 pm

I received my endowments in 1985. For those who have received their endowments more recently, lots has changed. I too wondered about the purpose behind the changes and wondered if it wasn’t to silence critics. I really appreciated each ordinance as they were, and couldn’t see how people might be offended. My understanding though, is that there have been changes and refinements in the temple ceremonies and clothing, including garments, gradually since the restoration of temples in the latter days. Garments used to extend to the wrists and ankles. I suppose one might speculate that there was some grand meaning when they changed to short sleeves and knee length, but I doubt it had a significant spiritual meaning or affect on the wearer other than possibly comfort and convenience. I’ll bet there were some, at the time, who even complained that the church was catering to worldly fashions. We’re they right?

There was one thing I hadn’t considered, however, as I contemplated the earlier changes from a more hands on initiatory experience, and that was abuse. A couple of years ago I ran across a letter purportedly from the presiding bishopric, that detailed the increasing number of incidents of people going through the temple for the first time where they were traumatized by the experience as a result of previous childhood satanic ritual abuse. It mentioned that there were cultish groups in the Salt Lake area who were imitating temple ceremonies but adding their own brand of perversion to it. The outcome was that when these people actually went through the “real” Temple they had flashbacks. The letter went on to say that they were troubled to discover that the perpetrators of this abuse were in some cases active members and leaders in their area, who were living double lives. Scary!

Now, I cannot validate the authenticity of this information, but it did help me see that maybe these changes were made for a far more purposeful and compassionate reason than my limited perspective at the time could have accounted for.

As for the utilization of the veil in the temple: I don’t know where I’ve ever heard an authority in the church discuss the symbolism or utility of the use of the veil. There are scores of us willing to speculate on this and other topics. Who knows, one of our opinions might be right. I think the bottom line is that even if somehow, women’s glory has somehow diminished (thus no need for the veil), they’re still ushered through the endowment and into the celestial room, a representation of qualifying to enter Gods presence. This in my mind hardly represents a diminishment of opportunity, brought on by a lack of spiritual radiance. My feeling, and that’s all it is, is that as they contemplate how to streamline the sessions (and even the reason for streamlining is purely speculative), they evaluate every component, its necessity and it’s amount of time to complete. Singly, each element doesn’t amount to much, but together, the things that have been eliminated add up. I think this is no different with the elimination of the veil. Is their symbolism in the veil? Yes. Was there symbolism in the other postures and actions that have been eliminated from the temple ceremonies? Sure, but many of these have been eliminated a while now. Has each change been because of our unworthiness or diminution of radiance? I was a temple worker for a while till covid closed the temple, and can attest to the sweet spirit of service and dedication I encountered in the sisters while there. We all have things that we need to improve in, but if you’re a sister, attending the temple, you’ve got your priorities straight in at least one aspect. The scriptures do suggest a time when the daughters of Zion will have lost their luster a bit (Isaiah 3:16). My feeling is that this isn’t referring to the faithful women in Zion, but those of the church who have embraced the world, and at some point that might consist of a fair number. We’ll see soon enough, I guess.

Sorry, Micah. I’m with Noelle on this one.

Micah

9/14/2020 08:33:12 pm

I personally find it paradoxical to admit that people are going through the temple who are making a mockery to the temple, and they still get to go to the celestial room, while making the argument that anybody just being in the temple and making it to the celestial room proves something. The temple is a place of covenants and covenants are entirely personal, so I don't agree that the temple and more specifically the celestial room holds the same value for everyone who walks in. As far as I was aware, they made the veil optional? What I'm saying is that a woman who believes there is symbolic weight to it should be offended if she is asked to remove it. If one doesn't believe the veil has any value (as you alluded to) then I've admitted that it doesn't matter. My assumption and belief is that it holds value. Regardless, I'm not wearing one, it's entirely moot for me! Obviously if the veil has no value I'm utterly wrong: if the veil does have value this is a fulfillment to Isaiah's prophecy, and I've now represented both sides.

Scott

9/14/2020 09:32:21 pm

Sorry I wasn’t as clear as I meant to be. What I tried to say was that, though there is symbolic meaning and value in so much of the temple, that has not halted the alteration or even elimination of articles of clothing, dialogue from the films, guestures in the ceremonies, and so on. Stuff just changes without much explanation. I guess my contention is with your supposition that the sisters should be “hurt” by the veil being slowly retired. I am in complete agreement that a person can do all it takes to get to the temple, make covenants in the temple, and participate there regularly, and enter the celestial room and still be found to be a worldly person. What I disagree with is that anyone should be offended or hurt whenever something changes, and attribute that change to something they did. Advocating getting offended or hurt isn't advocating a positive direction.

Conversely, maybe the sisters don’t need to wear the veil any more because the brothers have raised their spirituality sufficient to not have their eyes burned out simply by casting their gaze upon an unveiled sister. Lol!

Micah

9/15/2020 09:00:07 am

I know that Isaiah chapter 3 will happen. I know it will happen. For it to happen there has to be a generation of Latter-Day Saint women that fulfill the prophecy. I also know that the times of the gentiles was fulfilled between 1917-1967 because prophets said so. We are out of time. That means whether or not we like it or not Isaiah 3 is this generation. I personally believe that the best way to help them, the best way to strengthen them, is to tell them the truth. Others believe the best way to help them is to coddle them or “white knight” on their behalf. I could be wrong, and it might not help them or strengthen them, but I know for a fact that coddling them and white knighting on their behalf is weakening them (for the Lord loveth and strengthens who he chastens). In fact, I would go as far as to say that this form of parenting is what created this generation of Ephraim women in the first place. I guess we will just have to wait and see. I also know for a fact that the righteous women will be outnumbering the men 7 to 1; I don’t think men are getting better! LOL

Stephen Wells

9/14/2020 08:45:21 pm

I really love your work! You have inspired me to get my life in order and try and be a little better everyday. I have a quick question about Celestial Law and what exactly you think it will entail when Joseph Smith restores it. I shared it with my brother and he sent me this quote from Brigham Young and I was wondering what your thoughts were on it:

A man who has had his mind opened to the operation of the Priesthood of the Son of God–who understands anything of the government of heaven, must understand that finite beings are not capable of receiving and abiding the celestial law in its fulness. When can you abide a celestial law? When you become a celestial being, and never until then. (Discourses of Brigham Young, sel by John A. Widtsoe [1954], p.95; emphasis added)

It is my understanding that those in the New Jerusalem will not be Celestial Beings yet. I really just want to understand/ hear your thoughts on what Brigham was trying to say and how this fits into us here on earth receiving Celestial Law. My response to my brother was that maybe we are just going to get a part on it like Law of Consecration, Plural Marriage, etc

Micah

9/15/2020 09:17:26 am

God bless Stephen and thank you for the interesting question!

We learn in D&C 105 that a city cannot be received unto Christ as a city of Holiness unless it is living the Celestial Law. We learn in many locations, but my favorite quote is from Parley P. Pratt which said, “if such a city is never built than Christ will never come.” If that quote from Brigham Young is to be interpreted in the way that I believe your brother is trying to interpret it than men would never be able to live Celestial Law thus the city could never be built thus Christ could never make it a city of Holiness thus Christ could never come. Obviously that interpretation of this quote is false, and it is easy to prove it, were the people of Enoch resurrected or translated beings? The answer is no, they were mortals. Yet they were able to live the Celestial Law and because of that Christ did make the city a City of Holiness and eventually did translate the inhabitants of the city and “accepted the city unto Himself”.

So where is the fatal flaw in that interpretation of Brigham Young’s quote? The fatal flaw is assuming that a “celestial being” means a “translated or resurrected” being. There are and were in the history of this world many who had their calling and election made sure, ie. the Lord said, “you are a celestial being”, whose bodies are now resting in the ground. Remember Alma 34:31-35. Your body does not change your spirit. Your spirit is granted and inhabits the body to the degree that your spirit became in this life. Basically what Brigham Young is saying “you cannot build a city of Holiness without celestial law and you can’t have a people able to live celestial law until you get a group of celestial or Zion people.” The entire temple experience teaches you as a “finite being” how to become a celestial person.
The literal job of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is to take finite beings and turn them into celestial beings, like a hospital’s job is to take sick people and turn them into healthy people.

Micah

9/20/2020 07:22:28 am

I wrote this as a response to an email I got that is generic enough and important enough that I feel that I need to it post in here.

We were born at the time we were born in the families that we were for a specific reason. There is a reason why Satan wants to convince my generation that they have failed before our test has even come. My greatest anxiety as a member of the church is that I could have helped someone in my generation and I failed to do so. I’m glad to hear of the changes in you waking up. We (our generation and the Church) need you probably more than you realize.

For the last 12 years I have been in Canada and I’ve never used the internet to study the gospel- I admitted the same recently in an interview with Brother Guerrero, I never used YouTube for religious reasons. I used to for Baz Battles! I had a wake up call a little over a year ago, slightly different, at which point in time I became more active in the religious aspect of YouTube. It was at this time that I found out about Julie Rowe (had never heard of her until about 4 months ago) and Jake Hilton (once again, I found him about 9 months ago) and people like Jodi Stoddard and Millennial Reign. Julie and Jake both started out as members of the Church, claiming to teach doctrines of the Church, nothing they taught was super dangerous. Then they started claiming to have been visited by angels, prophets, Jesus Christ, the Father etc Then they left the Church and took as many followers with them as they could. Millennial Reign and Jodi not only were stealing slides and talking points directly from Jake Hilton, they admitted that listening to Jake Hilton around 5 years ago is what woke them up. This raised a ton of red flags for me. I’ve tried to reach out to both of them 6 months ago and was promptly blocked. I don’t block any emails and I try to respond to every single one. I’ve listened to Jodi’s and Millennial Reign’s two videos multiple times and have pointed out what is wrong. They have yet to take the time to watch one of my videos or respond. Instead, over the last 6 months Millennial Reign has started a “club”. This club, you guessed it, has been seeing visions of Jesus, the Father, angels, all coming to them, administering to them and even ordaining them. These members of his group claim to be partially translated members of the 144,000. I get emails almost daily with stories. What does this sound like? Julie Rowe and Jake Hilton 2.0. I was also informed that just like Julie and Jake, Millennial Reign attempted to publish a book but the transcript was turned down. The Book of Mormon gives you the key on who is sharing truth and light vs who is setting themselves up as truth and light. That is the key, that is the difference. As soon as somebody wants to sell you a book (or anything similar), I don’t care how religious they are, I don’t care how right the contents of the book are, as soon as you attempt to make a living preaching the word of God you are practicing priestcraft and are on the high road to Hell and apostasy. There’s a reason why books like Mormon Doctrine are no longer being printed, while John Bytheway’s books line the shelves. Bruce R. McConkie was not making a profit on any of his books. I have put up frankly thousands of hours worth of papers on my family blog over the years and over those years I’ve had to combat people (even my Mother hahaha) trying to get me to sell my work. I will never do that. I have no idea how member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints reading the Book of Mormon can rationalize that away. We spend so much time as a Church talking about pornography and masturbation, imagine someone rationalizing away pornography and masturbation to such a degree that it becomes a common practice in the Church. No one would believe such a future could ever exist, and yet the Book of Mormon mentions pornography and masturbation a grand total of zero times. You can hardly turn a page in the Book of Mormon without running into idolatry and priestcraft, which is now so rampant and accepted that we have bookstores specifically designed to sell the priestcraft. You can have the priestcraft sold directly to the idolatry in your hand (cell phone). The only reason why it’s hard for members to identify the truth online is because members have become so blinded to idolatry and priestcraft that they can’t even recognize it. Members have no problem identifying pornography and masturbation. If you are having trouble identifying people or truth online may I humbly suggest studying idolatry and priestcraft. I can promise you that it will open your eyes. A simple question of, “why is this individual sharing this information?” and if the answer is, “to sell a documentary”, “to get people interested in that pastor’s church” (people’s weird dreams), are they doing it be

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9/20/2020 07:25:36 am

-cause they monetized their YouTube channel and are asking for likes, comments and subscribes, etc. In Parley P Pratt’s A Voice of Warning he discusses in the first few chapters about how he was raising enough money just to print the books off, he wasn’t doing it to make money and he explains why he is doing this. There is now an even younger generation of YouTubers that I see coming up that are now simply disseminating and spreading the work of Millennial Reign and Jodi’s work which their works was disseminated from Jake’s. Their doctrine is poison and it will kill you by degrees. “If random Jews in Jerusalem have the Priesthood, can build temples, etc is my Church really the only true church who holds the keys?” It is poison, it makes you question things that you should not be questioning.

Stephen

9/20/2020 07:39:25 am

What are your thoughts on the Hosanna Shout from last General Conference? Do you believe that it was anything more than commemorating and celebrating the first vision? Or do you think that President Nelson knows more about more things possibly being restored in the near future?

I know this is just speculation. I was just curious if you had any insights or thoughts on it? If not no worries. Thanks for taking the time to help strengthen people's testimonies of the church.

Micah

9/21/2020 07:16:09 am

I absolutely think that President Nelson knows that things are coming, but to be frank, I don't think you have to be a prophet of God to know things are coming! Studying the standard works and the teachings of the prophet Joseph Smith I've shown in my papers that members should know of a lot of things that are coming. Ie. the return of Joseph Smith, reinstatement of celestial law etc. I'm going to believe that the Hosanna Shout was a "welcome back" or a "please come back" for Joseph Smith until I know otherwise. He needs to come back, we've run out of time.

God bless, God speed, keep the faith,

Micah

Sara

9/20/2020 09:32:55 pm

Thank you so much for your perspective, I really agree. Do you think people like Avraham Gilead, John Pontius or Cory Jensen fall in that category of teaching priestcraft? John and Cory’s books have been life changing.

Micah

9/21/2020 07:10:57 am

First of all, thank you for your kind words.

Secondly, there is a difference between practicing priestcraft and teaching false doctrine. Just because one is practicing priestcraft does not immediately mean what they are teaching is bad, but it does mean that their motivation immediately gets called into question. And it immediately rules them out as somebody who you should go to for truth.. The Book of Mormon teaches, "trust no one to be your teacher nor your minister, except he be a man of God, walking in his ways and keeping his commandments." (Mosiah 23:14). Priestcraft is a pretty clear indicator; it is a sin of open rebellion, which makes it a far worse sin.

Lastly, remember that Satan will give you something good to keep you from something great, as well as, take away lesser evils if you are willing to bite on greater evils. I met a man on my mission who was convinced that homosexuality was of God because once he gave into his homosexual temptations "the Lord" removed his addiction to alcohol.

God bless, God speed, keep the faith

Micah

HOLLY KURTZEBORN

9/27/2020 01:32:18 pm

Hi Micah,

Can I get your email address? When I click on the contact us button it takes me to a blank screen. I'm not sure what I 'm doing wrong, but would love to email you a question I have.

Thank You!
Holly Kurtzeborn

Micah

9/27/2020 01:41:20 pm

Hi Holly,
I've had a few emails today about the website acting up, sorry about that!

My email address is AMEnglish@live.com

Micah

9/28/2020 08:18:49 am

Here's another commonly asked question and my response:

Both my parents are boomers, both of them are converts, both of which I have fond feelings for. They did the best they could both being converts. My problem with boomers is made manifest every day now online with a new video every day from somebody who doesn't know what they are talking about, who spent the last 40 years in the Church learning absolutely nothing and now that they are in the "old person" position they are trying to assume the mantle that their grandparents held and when they are not shown "the proper respect from the youngsters" they lash out at the younger generation. The boomers took the greatest generation and threw them in old folk homes and have now spent a life of debauchery in Babylon only to turn around and demand that the younger generations treat them with more respect than they themselves treated the greatest generation. I have not been abused by any boomer personally but I have an intelligence that works, and every day I get to wake up and look out at the world that they created for me. And then I get to listen to them spew apostasy and nonsense about the Church and the Lord's doctrines online and whine about not getting enough respect as they do it. As Joseph Smith said, "anyone of common intelligence can see" that the boomers in America, on a whole, just as the generation of Jews in Jesus' time, are one of the worst generations of men this world has ever or will ever see. And as I have said before, #NotAllBoomers. I know of many valiant boomers who were/are raising their voice of warning. Brother Hyrum Andrus for example was not a boomer but was born in that generation. And I think he was a powerful representative of Christ and his gospel.

We used to love watching movies (one year we almost watched 100 movies at the theatre) but about 5 years ago the quality started going downhill and within the last 2 years we haven't gone to the theatre to watch a single movie. When I watched Disney's Frozen I said that this is a dangerous and sad change in movies, changing from teaching mythology with universal teaching applications to teaching outright propaganda. And when JJ Abrams' The Force Awakens came out I said this is the death of storytelling and mythology. A lot of people disagreed with me online until the Last Jedi came out and Marvel's Captain Marvel came out and now everyone seems to be awake. There's just no time for this stuff anymore.

New Jerusalem isn't just where the Constitution will be saved, it is where all the righteous of this generation will be saved. You are right to place your heart there, we need to build it.

Janice Huddleston

9/28/2020 08:47:56 am

I appreciate your clairity, but I AM having trouble downloading your document,which I need to do to look up and study references. I am using a kindle tablet, but the files don't download! Help! Are they pdf, or? Thanks, and btw, I am part of that generation, born in 1948, and witnessed a lot (on TV of course) and remember the excitement when Israel became a nation and it's fulfillment of prophecy. Thanks for any help, Janice

Micah

9/28/2020 08:56:19 am

Hi Janice,
We post them as Word files so unless Kindle tablets accept Word the documents probably won't download. Do PDF files work? I can start posting them in PDF if that's the case. Is there a specific paper you wanted, I could try emailing it to you in PDF form to try?

Thanks,
Micah

tropicalflower

9/29/2020 04:34:54 pm

Where is your interview with Troy?
Is it Troy Ables from the channel The Last Dispensation? Looking forward to watch it.

Micah

9/29/2020 05:41:29 pm

Yes, that's the Troy. He had to cancel last week but we plan on rescheduling.

John

9/30/2020 12:04:51 pm

You make a comment saying:
"President Nelson JUST SAID “I will soon see Brother Joseph, Brigham Young, etc.”.

I was just wondering where that a as from?
Thanks!

Micah

9/30/2020 06:06:01 pm

Here's the quote:
“I found myself asking, ‘What would I say to the Prophet Joseph Smith? What would I say to Brigham Young, Wilford Woodruff and the other presidents, on up to President Thomas S. Monson? I’m going to meet them soon.’ To close the temples would deny all for which all those Brethren gave everything, but we really had no other alternative.”

Here's the link:
https://www.thechurchnews.com/temples/2020-07-27/covid-19-president-nelson-decision-close-temples-video-189635

Jmv

9/30/2020 12:07:51 pm

Hey Micah, after watching your video about the 7 seals dealing with things only in the future from John's day, as well as listening to Hyrum Andrus' talk about the same thing, I am still really confused on how that looks. Would you mind explaining that again in a different way?

From Joseph Smith's quote on the subject I am understanding that each seal was not opened at the beginning of each 1000 year period, and that John's visions in between the opening of each seal did not correlate with things that happened during the first 1000 years, 2nd 1000 years, etc. Is this correct? If so, what period of time did john's visions between each seal opening belong to? When are the 7 seals opened?

Also, do you disagree with the church's website description of John's prophecies connecting to events from 4000bc to today?

Micah

10/5/2020 10:24:08 am

Up to the point in time where you asked “is this correct?” you are correct.

When a seal was opened John was not shown the contents of the book/scroll, John’s attention was taken away from the scroll and was shown an event. These events that he was shown did not correlate with anything in the respective 1000 year periods that the seal contains but rather showed chronologically what was to take place in the last days. For example, Jesus shows you in a vision 7 books. One book contains in it the story of Adam, another book contains the story of Noah, another the story of Abraham, another Moses, another of Jesus Christ, another the Dark Ages and the last book contained the last days. Jesus unlocks the first book (ie the book of Adam)- you are then directed by an angel to look and you see kids scurrying through halls in a school. The Lord then unlocks the second book (Noah), your attention is then drawn away and you are shown children entering into classrooms. The Lord then opens the third book (Abraham) and your attention is drawn away again and you are shown children taking their seats. He then opens the next book and you are then shown children sitting in the classroom and a bell go off. He opens the next book (Jesus) and your attention is drawn away and you see a teacher teaching the kids in the classroom. The next book is unlocked, and you are shown the teacher teaching and you hear the bell go off in the classroom. The last book is opened, your attention is drawn over and you see the kids leaving the classroom and joining with their parents and going home.

What John was shown and what you were shown was clearly not what was in the books, but rather was showing you what was happening on earth while the books were being opened so that you, reading the book of revelation, can look at it and say “oh, the bell has rung and we are currently being taught. Ergo, what needs to happen next is the bell needs to ring then after that we can go home.”

The seals are opened at or around when the events that John are shown actually happen on Earth.

Yes, I myself and Brother Andrus and many others disagree that the “white horse” represents something from 4000-3000 BC etc because I go with the assumption that Joseph Smith was right. But I also bring up the fact that despite the fact that the Church claims they “take no official stance” on the Meso-America model vs the Hilltop model, the Church clearly does take a stance. Look at any of the artwork the Church has approved, including the new Book of Mormon videos. I personally once again stick with Joseph, where Joseph said the western tribes of Native American Indians are the Lamanites. Or when Joseph said that the lands from Palmyra New York to Nauvoo IL were the lands of the Nephites and that their very bones testified that they were there. Does it really matter whether the Book of Mormon took place somewhere in Meso-America or with the Hilltop people in North America? Probably not, but if somebody held a gun to my head and said “do you believe what Joseph Smith taught or the current Church website?” I would say Joseph Smith. The Church’s website, unless is specifically quoting a prophet or apostle, is simply just an equivalent of a Sunday School teacher writing their thoughts. There are no keys in that; there is not one iota difference between that and if I came out and said “the sky is orange.” We are both keyless individuals.

Fredric Elkins link

9/30/2020 07:41:16 pm

I think your timeline needs to be narrowed up some. Have you read the letter, approved by the first presidency, written by Featherstone and placed in the Atlanta GA temple time capsule. Christ will have returned before 2033 and living amongst us. That does leave a lot to happen, but the nest 6 or so presidents will go down in rapid succession. Have you ever considered that the 144,000 could have already been sealed. I agree that the tribes need to return, but not necessarily first. just a thought as I'm trying to study and keep abreast of all that is coming. Thanks for your insight.

Micah

10/1/2020 03:50:39 pm

I believe there is a very good chance the Lord will come before 2033. I go over in my Seventh Seal Not to Be +10 why the Featherstone letter's belief is that the Lord will be living with the Saints pre-2033. But that the Great and Dreadful Day would obviously be post-2033.

The 144,000 members could and are obviously being and have been "called". Being "ordained" cannot have already taken place. The 144,000 will come from the 10 returned tribes which haven't returned ergo no one has been ordained yet with that point of reference alone. "The 10 tribes will assist in building the New Jerusalem" ergo they have to come before New Jerusalem is finished. The 144,000 which are called from the returned 10 tribes will be ordained and purified in New Jerusalem. These are concrete points of reference.

Stephen

10/1/2020 03:36:17 pm

On the church app they already put up a "link" to the sessions for the October 2020 General Conference. Obviously there are no talks up yet, but they did put a picture up for it like they do for every conference. For example, last General Conference they have a picture of the first vision obviously to go along with the theme of the conference. The picture they have up for this October's general conference is that of Jesus teaching the Samaritan woman at Jacob's well. I could not recall the details of that story very well so I decided to read it again. It is found in John 3. As I was reading I got to verse 14 which says this:

14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

"Springing up" in this verse has a cross reference to D&C 63:23. This whole section (Section 63) is about Joseph Smith asking the Lord what His will is for the building up of Zion. Verse 23 says this:

23 But unto him that keepeth my commandments I will give the mysteries of my kingdom, and the same shall be in him a well of living water, springing up unto everlasting life.

And the next verse (verse 24) talks all about the redemption of Zion.

24 And now, behold, this is the will of the Lord your God concerning his saints, that they should assemble themselves together unto the land of Zion, not in haste, lest there should be confusion, which bringeth pestilence.

It probably means nothing but I thought it was kind of a cool coincidence that there is that scripture link to D&C 63 talking about the redemption of Zion

Stephen

10/1/2020 03:38:52 pm

Sorry the story about the Samaritan woman at the well is actually found in John 4 not chapter 3.

Richard G Marble

10/3/2020 12:08:34 pm

Just finished reading your item on parable of the talents and the 10 virgins last night. this morning listened to Elder Bednar's address. I would rather read your materials than listen to your speaking. I was struck that his message had many elements that you pointed out. One question what is your take on the revelation 12 and the sign some others are saying happened in 2017 when Jupiter spent 9 months in the womb of Virgo with the 12 stars as a crown and the Sun at her side and the moon at her feet as Jupiter exited between her legs?

Micah

10/5/2020 11:31:43 am

Elder Bednar could not have summarized my paper the 10 Virgins better if he tried. He talked about physical preparedness and temporal salvation and pivoted directly into the ten virgins and quoted and said that the time is coming when the wise virgins will have to say to the foolish “there is not enough for me and thee”. Elder Bednar’s talk is being skewed as a talk to prepare, however, his talk was not given in future tense but in past tense. “And at midnight a call went out, the bridegroom cometh, go ye out to meet him and then the virgins arose.” Elder Bednar called people out, he called “the bridegroom cometh” and members are now waking up and checking their oil, which they should have been doing, as Elder Bednar said, the last seven years.

The only thing that the star constellation with its accompanying eclipses could represent is that of the birth of the kingdom of God. I believe that we are right on time and we very well could see the birth of the kingdom of God in 3.5 years.

Richard G Marble

10/5/2020 10:46:00 pm

I meant that I had read the parable of the 10 virgins and I found so much in conference that tells me time is indeed short.

Micah

10/8/2020 08:39:14 am

That's what I got from your post, and I completely agree.

tropicalflower

10/4/2020 04:36:03 pm

Comments on General Conference please?

Micah

10/4/2020 08:33:41 pm

I did a quick video with my thoughts:

https://youtu.be/ou3ljWWEu84

Stephen

10/5/2020 03:28:53 pm

I just watched your video of your thoughts on General Conference. Really enjoyed it! I had a few questions:

1. How will we know when Joseph Smith is back? Will it be at a General Conference? Will President Nelson (or whoever is prophet at the time) announce it like in an email, etc? I think you mentioned that he will "judge" the people and who are righteous, does this mean he will go house to house and call you out to go to Jackson County/ help redeem Zion? Will the whole church know that He is back when it happens?

2. In D&C 101 is the Tower the temple in Jackson County? That's all I could come up with. (I think you said you might answer this in one of your upcoming videos but I thought I'd ask anyway.)

3. If we are in debt or don't have enough food storage we can't go to the New Jerusalem, no matter how spiritually prepared we are. Is that correct? How much food storage would be enough? Probably too late at this point anyways but hypothetically how much would you say.

4. What are the "Agenda" talks that you talked about in the General Conference video? What is the "agenda"? Is it important that I know this now or will I realize what the agenda as time goes on and that be ok? Is this the "stuff" that separates the wheat from the tares or am I way off on that?

5. Will there still be a lot of "gathering of the House of Israel" (aka missionary work) when the tribulations start and also during the tribulation time? I feel like President Nelson keeps talking about "gathering" like we have time left to do that but if everything "hits the fan" soon then it doesn't make sense.

6. In your opinion what might be the mark of the beast? Will it be easy to recognize? I have a friend who thinks that it is going to be the COVID-19 vaccine, which, when we get it, they will imbed into us nanotechnology to be able to track us?

7. What can I start doing today to get ready for the tribulations coming and also to be worthy to be a part of redeeming Zion?

I really love your work. I appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge and help wake people up.

Micah

10/9/2020 08:33:35 am

1. Isaiah teaches us that Joseph Smith will return and will work prudently (in discretion). So no, most members of the Church won’t know about it- that includes the leaders of the Church. We learn when Joseph Smith comes back and the nature of his return to the leader of the Church in the parable of the nobleman and the olive trees (D&C 101). I just posted a video on this parable. Jesus comes and personally rebukes the leaders of the Church and then sends his one servant, Joseph Smith to collect the strength of the Church (he must have already been back at that time). The D&C repeatedly identifies itself as the “ensample” meaning what happened before is the foundation and will repeat in the future when these things take place. Joseph Smith had some of his most loyal leaders of the church go off and round up people for Zion’s Camp. We learn in the paper Joseph Smith to Return of the quote by I believe Heber C. Kimball that the very first thing Joseph will do when he is back is that he will resurrect that same group of people. After Joseph Smith returns this group will most likely be sent out for specific targets to build Zion’s Camp 2.0.

2. See my paper The Parable of the Nobleman and the Olive Trees

3. I point out in one of my papers that to be “spiritually prepared” is to not neglect your temporal salvation. For to the Lord there are no commandments that are temporal vs spiritual- they are all spiritual to him. This was also reiterated at General Conference by Brother Waddell (Presiding Bishopric). There would be no difference between asking that and “so if I wasn’t baptized you are saying I can’t get into heaven, regardless of how much of the gospel of Jesus Christ I lived?” It’s a hard question to answer because being baptized is an integral part of the gospel of Jesus Christ. I only know and can tell you to do what the keys of God have told us to do. And they have told us for over 120 years to “avoid debt like a plague” and to make sure you have one year’s supply of food, water, clothing and fuel (where applicable)- I believe the fuel is referring to a way heat your house and cook. And that this preparation will be “as important for us as it was for the people in Noah’s day to board the ark.” The ensample for the law of consecration is talked about in my 10 Virgins paper. To enter into the law of consecration there is no required amount that you have to have to enter into the covenant but one cannot belong to mammon and then commit themselves to God. Meaning, you cannot enter the law of consecration in debt owned by mammon- you are still part of Babylon and owned by her. If you sell all that you own and you are debt free and you have a year’s supply of food and water and only a shovel in your hand and that’s all you own, you have fulfilled all of the required. If selling all that you own would still put you in debt and you don’t have a year of supplies then you have chosen Babylon. Those that chose Babylon their entire lives unfortunately/fortunately don’t get to just hop hills (as Isaiah teaches us) directly before the end. This would be unfair and un-Godlike for all parties involved.

4. The reason why we needed to build the tower (ie live celestial law and build Zion and have the Lord make it a city of Holiness) is so that we would “stand independent of all creatures under heaven.” By default, if we are not living celestial law, we have not built Zion and made it a city of Holiness, we then once again, by default, as a Church are dependent. The Church is at this time utterly dependent on Babylon to survive. Building temples, building churches, taxes, keeping the buildings open etc etc, we are utterly dependent. That dependency comes at a cost. The Assyrian, Babylon etc can inflict damage on us. This damage is economic but the damage is also spiritual, it can shut our churches and temples down etc. With that said, the Assyrian is active right now and to avoid further damage in the form of assaults by these entities, the Church finds itself “kissing their rings”. The kissing of the rings was the agenda. If you are a member and you support an organization that openly advocates for communism/socialism, openly advocates for the destruction of the family, it openly preaches anti-white racism and in fine supports that of the will of the Assyrian over that over the will of the Lord and the olive trees, yes, you very much so will be held to account for it.

5. The gathering of Israel never stops, the focus just changes. First the gentiles, then scattered Israel, then the remnant, then the Jews, then the heathen nations. If you are in Israel and wish to remain in her, get comfortable with missionary work.

6. See my paper Satan: The Great Counterfeiter

7. Learn how to Hear Him and “become a principle unto revelation and inspiration” (this

Stephen

10/9/2020 12:47:57 pm

I appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions. Much appreciated!

I guess I will most likely not be taking part in the redemption of Zion. I am over $100,000 in debt to Uncle Sam from graduate school and don't graduate till next summer. If my family and I sold everything we have it might (key word is might) add up to $15,000. You are right and I see it clearly now. We (my wife and I) have lived in Babylon for our whole life. The scary thing is we didn't even realize it till now. (Well technically my wife still doesn't know. Waiting for the opportune moment to tell her...) I wish I could go back 4 years and not go to graduate school. Although I would still be working a minimum wage Job, at least we would have been debt free. Now with things going the way they are it will take us at least 5 years to pay off our debt which, the way it sounds, will be too late. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess.

Anyway, sorry, I just had to vent to someone haha. Thanks again for your work and helping me wake up to the truth. If my family and I make it through the tribulations and are found worthy to enter the New Jerusalem thereafter, I will come find you and thank you personally for at least helping me to do ask much as I could spiritually before it was too late. At least now I can endure the coming tribulations with greater faith and more of an eternal perspective.

Micah

10/9/2020 01:37:50 pm

continuing
(this was actually not a quote from President Nelson but a quote from Joseph Smith). A good example of this was given at Saturday conference by the sister who told the story of putting away her cell phone while waiting in line at the store. She had received revelation and acted on it and then judged the fruit. That is how you learn to receive revelation and recognize the difference between it and a chemical response in your body ("strange spirits") and become "a principle of revelation and inspiration unto yourself" line upon line, precept upon precept.

Micah

10/12/2020 10:47:35 am

There are three groups that are mentioned in this time period.
1. Those that have lived according to the light they have received are prepared and shall not fear
2. Those that proved themselves and perfect themselves during the tribulation
3. Those that will fall away during the tribulation and be numbered with the rest of the wicked
This is made manifest the best in the story of Alma the elder and Abinadi. If you are someone who has not lived according to the light you have received , have not prepared, have lived in Babylon, have massive debt etc you should be thanking God for the years of tribulation because those are the years that you can prove yourself ie. those years become your second chance. It's not too late, it will just be harder. It's like dieting and exercising for 30 years vs. crash dieting and exercising for a few years while being obese. It's not too late to get into shape, it will just be much harder than if you had just taken small, incremental steps your whole life. Many members will expect to be delivered without tribulation and without preparation. If one is faithful through the years of tribulation, that will prove that they were elect, they were just misled or confused or made mistakes etc. If, however, they fall away, they prove that they weren't really interested in repenting, they weren't really interested in becoming Christ's people, they were just interested in avoided consequences, and as soon as they find out that the Savior is going to make them pay for their actions in the form of consequences they leave. They weren't there for any deep-seated spiritual conversion, they were just there for perceived hand outs or "get out of jail free" cards.

There is no guarantee for even those who have prepared that they will be in the initial New Jerusalem- I don't care if I have to pass through tribulations, even with my preparedness, so long as I can, 1. help as many brothers and sisters as I can and 2. I am saved at the end. If myself and my family are asked to tarry and we have to pass through tribulation, I am ready and willing to do that. I think a problem is that the perception is that those that have prepared think that they will escape all tribulation or that the reason why they have prepared is to escape tribulation. And those that are now finding they haven't prepared are mostly worried about, once again, not being blessed with the ability to avoid problems and tribulations. This is a flawed spiritual rationale. You should have prepared because the Lord told you to and if the Lord makes you pass through tribulation despite being prepared that should not affect your faith. If your aim is to build yourself up or to protect yourself, the Lord won't be on your side. But if you do what the Lord tells you to do entirely because you love the Lord and want to do what he says, regardless of the outcome, then you truly won't be afraid.

I want the Lord to put me where I can help Him the most. I want him to put me where I can grow the most and prove the most. I don't want the Lord to simply erase the consequences of all of my bad choices. The years of tribulation will prove which of the two groups you belong to.

Too many members who haven't prepared are panicking and fearing the tribulation, when they should be thanking God for it, for without it they could not be saved. And too many members who have prepared have done so for the wrong reasons, and might find themselves cursing God and leaving the Church because they expected no tribulation.
Serve God the best you can regardless of the rewards in this life.
If I had a choice between resting comfortably in New Jerusalem and suffering with you outside of New Jerusalem and helping people make it, I’d personally choose the latter. I’m not and have not prepared myself and my family with the hope that I can rest comfortably behind protective walls- that was not my intent.

Chris Boyce

10/8/2020 09:37:33 pm

Micah,
Well done! As I have listened to a number of people, there always seems to be a point when they get on a specific hobby horse, sign, or other topic and they just start heading south. They seem no longer open to learning, or they start getting really sloppy with the scriptures and the words of the prophets, not taking into account the whole. I really admire that you have stuck with it to figure out much of what is ahead. You may have stuff that is slightly off or out of order, I am not even sure what those might be as I have studied diligently the references you use and agree with all that I have studied in depth... but, I appreciate you working so hard from the bedrock principles of the gospel, the scriptures and the prophets. I really try and go back to all your source material and verify and understand it, and see if I have any objections to challenges to work through. Thanks for not succumbing to priestcrafts - financially or from an ego standpoint. You work has been a blessing in my life.

One question: In a number of your papers you reference an Amanda Wilcox (I think) journal entry about a conversation with Heber C Kimball. I have not been able to find that full entry, the ones I have found haven't covered the topic you were referring to. I may have that wrong. Just looking for that source material so I can read the whole.

Micah

10/9/2020 08:54:04 am

I really appreciate you email and your comment here. They were relatively similar so I hope it's ok if I respond to you here vs. through email.

I'm a proud member and espouse the doctrines taught in the Church. Which means I will always put more of an emphasis on the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith etc. A lot of members want to blend Church doctrine with sectarian notions (ie. "the rapture"). A lot of members of the Church instead of being proud of their membership in the Church, actively seek to blur the lines between all of Christendom and Christ's restored Church. I go into everything with the assumption that I know nothing and then I build upon that foundation with that hierarchy of truth. If I am wrong or somebody believes my interpretation is wrong, I welcome people to challenge it. I, however, will not take time to debate anti. For example, if someone wishes to debate me on whether or not Brigham Young was a fallen prophet- we don't have time for this. There is always speculation but the speculation comes in what the event is not vs when or if the event will occur. If Jesus says it is going to happen in a specific order, it is going to happen and will happen in that order. If Jesus says there will be pillars of smoke, one person might say "I think this is an atomic blast" another person might think it is caused by asteroids hitting the earth, but regardless it will happen. I also try to avoid that as much as possible and when I do I will say "I'm speculating" or "something you can observe" etc.

All the references from Amanda Wilcox are hard to find online. Brother Hyrum Andrus in his works and books (top notch research) is where I first was introduced to a lot of those references from her journal and letters. It's hard to find them online.

God bless, God speed, keep the faith,

Micah

Mo Hyde

10/10/2020 09:09:25 pm

Hey Micah, I appreciate all the info. It's great to learn and understand this. I'm picking up something new every video I watch. I have a questions for you. You make mention of the Celestial Law that includes the Law of Consecration and Plural Marriage and then you have said "among other things." I would love for you to do a paper/video with sources and quotes on what is all contained/expected in the Celestial Law including what is the other things besides these two important parts. Thanks again for all your work and willingness to share it with us!

Micah

10/12/2020 10:59:50 am

The other items in Celestial Law (that we know of) are all things contained in lower laws ie. the telestial law and terrestrial law. Faith, obedience, sacrifice, etc.

tropicalflower

10/10/2020 11:30:12 pm

Micah, can you make a video commenting on the talk given by Elder Quentin L. Cook "Hearts knit in righteousness and unity" when he talks about the constitution of the U.S. being inspired of God and for the benefit of all flesh and encouraging us to become a Zion people, etc.

Micah

10/12/2020 11:02:20 am

I can. What did you want me to do? Anything specific or did you want me to do a breakdown of that talk like I did for President Nelson's Future of the Church ensign article?

tropicalflower

10/12/2020 11:26:30 am

Yes! What you did with Pres. Nelson's talk! It was great!
In fact, if you really had the time and disposition, it would be extremely helpful if you could pick as many of this conference's most relevant talks as you could and do the same. This would help many of us so much to understand these messages more deeply. You do an excelent job as a gospel teacher, really gifted.
Thank you!

kingwinsolo

10/12/2020 10:50:17 am

In your opinion, will New Jerusalem come "down from heaven" as referenced in Revelation and Ether? Or will it be built by the Saints with the help of the lost 10 tribes? Or a combination of both? I'm wondering how that might look and if it will come without warning or if we will be seeing it be built for some time..

Micah

10/12/2020 11:00:44 am

I go over this in great detail in my paper Zion, New Jerusalem, a City of Holiness!

tropicalflower

10/12/2020 03:01:09 pm

I hadn't realized how often they spoke on Joseph Smith's sufferings in Liberty Jail this g.c. until I watched this:
https://youtu.be/VmGBB3xEABA

Charles Peterson

10/14/2020 07:00:10 am

Hi Micah,

Well done at first I was concerned with your tone but after getting past that you are a man of God with a witness of Jesus Christ. My question, some of us were slow to wake up myself included. I being a little younger than you fell away from the church and since 2017 have come back received my Temple recommend and have been progressing towards the goal. Since this year I have felt like most of the group that you have associated with on YouTube and though not all timelines and information match one thing I notice they put things right around 2024 for the redemption of Zion. Do you honestly believe for people like me that have been working on getting themselves prepared for this event, though late already have the door to the bridegrooms wedding closed? I won’t stop in my pursuit but my unrighteousness left me in debt and slightly unprepared. I have been adding food storage and paying off debt but it has been slower going than I thought. I have the feeling I have two years left before it is major go time in the tribulations time. Does that match up in your thoughts?

Micah

10/16/2020 08:44:12 am

You are literally the first person that is younger than me that has complained about my tone! Most of my generation or younger grew up on Trump, Ben Shapiro, Glenn Beck, the Young Turks (basically the entire left side of the spectrum), Tucker Carlson- if you found my tone off putting at first and you are actually younger than me, I seriously want to know what you have been doing the last 10 years! Have you seen the movie Blast from the Past? If you put me next to any person in culture within the last 10-20 years, I am highly less offensive! I get Boomers thinking that my tone is a little off, Boomers who grew up listening to Bill O’Reilly, Bill Cosby, Sam Cook... Most of the people who listen to me have played Call of Duty with a headset on at least once. I just find it shocking.

I go over this in my last paper, A test, a Test, a TEST! I have no idea who will be at the “marriage feast of the Lamb” but I do know that it will be far more selective than people realize. The redemption and building of New Jerusalem comes in phases. Watch or read my paper, Abinadi: A Type of Things to Come. The wave to go to redeem Zion is that of the middle age and young men of the Church. The first wave that goes and builds New Jerusalem will be “the noble, the rich and the wise.” After that the “poor, the lame” etc are brought into the program. This is gone over in my Parable of the 10 Virgins paper.

I’m not “the wick”. I will not (as far as I know) be judging you or anybody else but I know the standard that they will use to judge you. I go over those standards in A test, a Test, a TEST!

We can't be given everything. I would have loved to be born in the time of Jesus. We might not be in the marriage supper, we might not be in the initial building of New Jerusalem, I might die in a horrible car crash next week. We need to stay focused on obtaining the highest degree of the celestial kingdom and trust that the Lord will reward us as a good father would. Jesus taught this in Luke 14:9-11.

God bless, God speed, keep the faith,

Micah

Charles Peterson

10/16/2020 09:43:12 am

Hi MIcah,

Thanks for the response, I might not be younger than you after listening to the other talks...I went into the mission field in 2004 at 19 to Detroit, MIchigan. I might be wrong on our ages.

The tone was from your rebuttle to the other last day time lines...basically I didn't like how you said everyone else is wrong for believing in the 7th seal. I was prideful and wasn't willing to listen and research. I find your tone and papers uplifting and love listening to your videos now. My point is more, that you have to have a change of heart before you can have the spirit testify to you.

I believe that has come for me, I appreciate you not wanting to judge, my question was more on timing do you think there is still time to prepare. However, after much pondering and praying...I realize that it doesn't matter if their is enough time. If you believe in the times ahead of us and have faith in the savior you will prepare regardless of the trial, or outcome. That is where my family is at. I will be starting my own YouTube and Facebook presence to also speak about my testimony on this subject and likewise think this is the most important work is preparing for the second coming and the building of New Jerusalem along with the the gathering of the 10 Tribes.

Peace be unto you and again thank you for your testimony.

Your Brother in God

Charles

Scott Allen

10/16/2020 08:27:06 am

Micah,

Just wondering what happened to the transcriptions for your Isaiah papers and the Agency papers, will they be reposted?

Micah

10/16/2020 08:46:12 am

They are still on the website, just in a different section. Under "The II" hold the cursor over "LDS Archives" and you will see a drop down menu with "Understanding Isaiah", "Agency in Progression" etc off on the left side.

The Miller’s

10/18/2020 02:48:17 pm

We are officially off of the 7th seal train. However, we are curious as to your thoughts on some of the things mentioned in many of the 7th seal timeline videos.
What are your views on the eclipses that are 7 years apart? It doesn’t seem to completely fulfill the scripture because the stars didn’t fall?
You’ve mentioned the woman in the sky but we couldn’t tell what your view was on it. Do you think that it was fulfilled with Virgo, Jupiter and the other stars as those videos say?
Also, did you ever do a follow up on the Satan the counterfeiter video? That was absolutely fascinating and we would like more of your references!
Thanks!!

Micah

10/20/2020 08:14:39 am

Hello Millers,

There is no official sign to look for with regard to eclipses or Virgo. People looking at what happened with Virgo believe that it has reference to the Church giving birth to the Kingdom of God. It could. That sign has appeared in the sky multiple times- this is not the first time that this exact thing has happened. Could it be shown at this time as a foreshadow of the Kingdom of God about to be birthed (ie. New Jerusalem)? It’s possible, but there is no concrete proof that this was to happen in the constellations (ie. there was no prophecy that this needed to take place in the constellations), let alone in conjunction with anything else. The chapter subheading for Revelation Chapter 12 reads, “John sees the imminent apostasy of the Church- he also sees the war in heaven”. Revelation 12 is so screwy that there is a JST for the entire chapter. And as far as eclipses, men knew what eclipses were thousands of years ago, but yet they never referred to eclipses, they said “the sun was darkened”. Reading of the events in the Book of Mormon when a similar event took place, I believe is a more accurate understanding of the concept. Could the eclipses mean something? Sure. I would classify Virgo in the sky and the eclipses as “and they beheld signs in the heavens and wonders in the earth”. But it loses all validity if things don’t start moving forward with the New Jerusalem.

I appreciate it. As I say, I hope my videos and papers are increasing people’s testimony of Jesus Christ and deepening their understanding of the doctrines taught in his restored church. I could definitely do a follow up to that video in the ten tribes, we’ll just have to see how much time I have and the focus.

God bless, God speed, keep the faith,
Micah

Lacy

10/18/2020 07:50:39 pm

In your papers as well the the documentary on living scriptures “Joseph Smith, more than we know” both claim that Joseph Smith is the angel in Revelation 14, however in April conference 2020 Elder Rasband states specifically that that angel is Moroni. Do you have any additional clarification on this? I tend to think it has dual meaning and could clearly be both Moroni and Joseph Smith. I was under the understanding it was Joseph Smith until I heard Elder Rasband say otherwise at conference. I know there are additional scriptures in reference to Joseph being the servant and messenger in the latter days, but I’m just trying to find additional sources speaking of Joseph’s return that’s taught by the church. I cannot find anything on the church website.

Micah

10/20/2020 08:35:48 am

Frankly, I don’t care what I claim, I have a lot of opinions of stuff but I rarely share those. With that said, I never claimed that Joseph was this angel, I read Joseph explaining that HE thought he was this angel. Elder Rasband apparently thinks this angel was Moroni. This is not a disagreement between me and Elder Rasband, this is a disagreement between the Prophet Joseph Smith and Elder Rasband. And as I’ve said, if I have to choose between doctrines taught between modern prophets/apostles or Joseph Smith, I will always stick with Joseph as doctrines never change, and Joseph Smith was to be the revealer of truth in this dispensation. As you said, it could be Moroni and Joseph Smith, but that’s not on me to defend, that is on Elder Rasband. In my paper, Joseph Smith to Return, I list a lot of references (including Joseph identifying himself as this angel), but there are also many other references including 2 Nephi 27, the parable of the nobleman and the olive trees etc that I didn’t include in that paper. Richard N. Skousen in his book, His Return- Prophecy, Destiny and Hope, he also has a chapter on Joseph returning. I would say about his book, as I have just purchased it and read it, that it is scattered (he doesn’t seem to bother with chronology so much as talking about general events), it is sparse (for example, his chapter on Joseph returning is less than half than my paper, so he takes subjects and barely dips his toe in the pool) and lastly he is very assumptive (he doesn’t even attempt to prove anything). You can get the best parts of the chapter of Joseph Smith returning online which is where I first found the book. If you go back and read Brigham Young’s discourses, Church History, Orson Pratt etc Joesph Smith’s return was something that was taught often and frequently (Heber C. Kimball has some pretty straightforward quotes about it). The teaching of his return was taught less and less over the years and I believe (personally) because of the implications of his return (see my Parable of the Nobleman and the Olive Trees) and the effects of the teaching of it to the membership (President Thomas S Monson, Are We Prepared?)

God bless, God speed, keep the faith!

Micah

Noelle Ray

10/21/2020 10:23:26 am

Hi!! Thanks for all your hard work. I have a question on your Priestcraft paper.

You didn’t mention the General Authorities specifically as practicing priestcraft. I am assuming it is because they did not ASK to be a light, or set themselves up for a light, but were called. Also, they are NOT becoming General Authorities to get gain. (Since most of them made WAY more “gain” before they were called). So, they are in the clear? I wasn’t sure if you felt as though they were practicing priestcraft, but you didn’t want to say anything. I do not think they are...BUT...

If I commit murder for hire, I am as guilty or more guilty as the person carrying out the murder. So, basically if they HIRE the seminary teachers and commission artwork for the temples...they would have to be found guilty of priestcraft. They have the KEYS you are always talking about, so we all look to them for guidance. I just can’t see them damning all these people to hell by hiring them to do things that are forbidden.

If the GE’s are guilty of priestcraft (by hiring people to commit priestcrafts), they would have to be a bitter fountain.

Moroni 7:11 For behold, a bitter fountain cannot bring forth good water, neither can a good fountain bring forth bitter water. Wherefore a man being the servant of the devil cannot follow Christ; and if he follow Christ, he cannot be a servant of the devil.
Moroni 7:12 Wherefore all things which are good cometh of God; and that which is evil cometh of the devil. For the devil is an enemy unto God and fighteth against him continually and inviteth and enticeth to sin and to do that which is evil continually.
Moroni 7:13 But behold, that which is of God inviteth and enticeth to do good continually. Wherefore every thing which inviteth and enticeth to do good and to love God and to serve him is inspired of God.
I just don’t know if you can say Seminary teachers are guilty of priestcraft, if the general authorities called them (or set up the system). If you are saying General authorities ARE guilty of Priestcraft (one of the MAIN no nos), how can the church be true?
I know you don’t like the “pure heart” argument, but I feel like there are non LDS preachers out there that have pure motives. I feel like there are seminary teachers and gospel artists with pure motives. They USUALLY do not become a seminary teacher to get rich. Do they do it to set themselves up for a light? I had some great paid seminary teachers that changed my life. I don’t feel like they were setting themselves up as a light, but pointing me to the real LIGHT.
What would our world be like with hardly any gospel artwork, music or movies? You can say they can make them for free or to pay for the costs, but I don’t know how much that would happen. An artist could create a beautiful painting for free (and without his name) and then Deseret Book, who would produce and sell the painting would be guilty of priestcraft, and then I would be guilty of priestcraft for buying the painting. BUT we have been told to have things around, including artwork, that remind us of Christ (and gospel music and movies)... anyway… I am just having a hard time wrapping my head around this one.
I don’t know the answers. Maybe tell us how a completely NON priestcraft world would look like in our world.

Micah

10/23/2020 08:36:59 am

Hi Noelle,
Sorry to hear this is a difficult one to wrap your head around, let’s walk through this and see if I can answer your questions and concerns.
General Authorities are not to set themselves up as lights. None of us are. We are to be a light but the light should not be us, it should be Christ’s light. Being a General Authority or accepting any calling in the Church is not the same thing as seeking to set yourself up as a light and seeking to make your name a household name. There are members who seek for positions in the Church purely for the praise of man, but that does not mean that a General Authority by virtue of holding the calling is practicing priestcraft. Is the individual talking about their accomplishments, their credentials, their past callings, books they have written, etc etc, or are the individuals preaching of Christ?
The important thing that people need to understand about priestcraft is that it is a sin like murder, lying or stealing. It is not a sin like adultery, secret combinations, gossip etc. If someone is gossiping to you and you participate in it and don’t stop it, you have both sinned. The same applies to the other sins I listed. But if somebody steals from you are you equally culpable in the crime/sin? No. The one practicing priestcraft is the one committing the sin, not the individuals who are forced to pay for it. With that in mind, it’s not my job or anybody else’s job to go headhunting for specific people practicing priestcraft. So the simple answer is anyone can be practicing priestcraft but like the sin of adultery, unless they are caught red handed (like I believe seminary teachers are) how would you go about “proving” the sin? It’s much more important to make sure we don’t commit adultery, we don’ commit priestcraft etc.
If the keys of God tell you to do something that is a sin and you do it you actually aren’t culpable. For example, a prophet of God in the Old Testament told the Israelites when attacking this wicked city to kill the men, women and children, everyone. They decided to not kill the women and children because they thought “that’s wrong”. That decision to not listen to the commandment ultimately lead to the destruction of Israel from within. Killing women and children is bad, but if the prophet of God says to do it and it was an evil order, the sin would fall entirely on the prophet of God or those with the keys. And if the Lord immediately didn’t kill the prophet and you failed to follow the prophet’s orders, you would be held accountable.
I could have pure motives to try to rid a child of an abusive parent by killing that parent. It is still a sin. I could also steal to give to the poor and starving because I want to help them. It is still a sin. You could also lie to catch an evil person in a lie and expose them (Doctrine and Covenants 10:25-28). It is still a sin.
25 Yea, he saith unto them: Deceive and lie in wait to catch, that ye may destroy; behold, this is no harm. And thus he flattereth them, and telleth them that it is no sin to lie that they may catch a man in a lie, that they may destroy him.
26 And thus he flattereth them, and leadeth them along until he draggeth their souls down to hell; and thus he causeth them to catch themselves in their own snare.
27 And thus he goeth up and down, to and fro in the earth, seeking to destroy the souls of men.
28 Verily, verily, I say unto you, wo be unto him that lieth to deceive because he supposeth that another lieth to deceive, for such are not exempt from the justice of God.
It is made really clear in these verses that your motive doesn’t matter.
If you ask a member, “why do missionaries have to pay to go on a mission”, members will puff you full with their soliloquies on the virtues of one having to pay their own way to preach the word of God; yet ask a member why seminary teachers get paid to be teachers in some areas of the world and have to donate their time in other areas of the world, and watch as they bend themselves into a pretzel with the ends justify the means. Well, why don’t the ends justify the means with missionary work? Why doesn’t the church pay for every missionary? There’s no principle in it, and if there is no principle in it there is no intelligence in it. And if there is no intelligence in it then God is not for it.
Missionaries change a lot of people’s lives as well. Would that justify them getting paid to go on missions?
The Salt Lake City Temple with all of its beautiful art, murals, stained glass windows etc was built for free. You are right, not many people would do it at cost, and that’s exactly why we are not Zion.
In order to build Zion there is going to have to be enough of us that are willing, those who aren’t willing or weren’t willing won’t be a part of it. You buying a book or painting, as I describe

Micah

10/23/2020 08:39:12 am

*continuation

above, is not priestcraft.

The comment I made in reply to Shannon sheds further clarification.

God bless, God speed, we love you, keep the faith

Shannon

10/22/2020 09:27:41 pm

If seminary teachers are practicing priestcraft, why does/has the current prophet allowed it to go on so long?

Micah

10/23/2020 07:49:17 am

About five years ago I asked a missionary tracting with me if he would stop referring to us as Mormons, but if he would refer to us as members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He said something very similar to me, “if calling us Mormons is such a bad thing why does/has the current prophet allowed it to go on for so long? Bruce R. McConkie named his book Mormon Doctrine.” A little bit after that President Thomas S. Monson rolled out the “Meet the Mormons/I’m a Mormon” program that cost the church millions of dollars. The missionary at that time gave me a pack of “I am/meet the Mormon” cards- I voiced my displeasure. He asked me what my problem was and I said “I personally don’t like referring to us as Mormons and I don’t like this push.” He responded, “If referring to us as Mormons was not acceptable the prophet would never make our website thus or create this program.” President Thomas S. Monson dies, President Nelson scoops up millions of dollars worth of “Mormon” stuff and burns it. Meet the Mormons, Mormon.org, Mormon Helping Hands, Mormon Tabernacle Choir, etc with all of their accompanying items were scrapped. It’s important to note that I passed out these cards, I didn’t think it was the right move, but yet I still made a profile on “I’m a Mormon” and answered questions for the website. In 2015 you could not even voice concern about calling us Mormons and in 2020 if you accidentally call us Mormons you’ll now get chewed out and members pretend like 2015 never happened.

If teaching that black skin was the sign of the curse that God placed upon Cain was wrong, why did prophets from Joseph Smith- Gordon B. Hinckley allow it to be taught?

If forbidding a child of a gay marriage it be baptized was such a bad thing, why did the leaders of the church forbid it? People, the year this came out could have said this. A year later it was changed.

Members have a misguided belief that it’s a prophet’s job to never make a mistake. If we hold our leaders to a position of perfection then they could hold the primary president or the Sunday school teacher or the young women’s president to the same standard. Everyone who has ever held a calling in the church knows there were times they made a mistake in their calling, that there was something they could have done better or something they should not have done at all. Seminary teachers getting paid is priestcraft and it will be done away with. Period. That does not mean that the Church isn’t true, that does not mean that I can stop paying my tithing. It would be no different than a young men’s president losing his temper and somebody saying, “see the church isn’t true” and taking their young man out of the program.

Nicholas Rawlins

11/2/2020 01:39:22 pm

Hey Micah, first off I've greatly appreciated your videos and feel a bit of a "kindred spirit" with you based on your thoughts/perspective and passion for pure doctrine (I'm also an author of a book trilogy too, btw). For me, your Isaiah series in particular has been a direct answer to years of prayer. As a missionary, I was known by other missionaries as that guy who had actually read the Old Testament before, and would excitedly share prophecies of the return of the 10 tribes within our lifetimes. Now I'm known in our ward as that guy who calls christmas trees pagan idolatry, and my talk condemning modern feminism as well as my Easter talk both continue to be "controversial" years out. That said, I had a long run as gospel doctrine teacher that was one of the highlights of post-missionary church life.

While I was teaching the Book of Mormon in gospel doctrine 4 years ago I very strongly condemned priestcraft in class (because, duh) and unexpectedly received intense pushback. I brought it up specifically in reference to several of my in-laws buying and reading Julie Rowe's book purporting revelation without proper keys, but also mentioned folks like Bytheway, Prout, etc. One of the points the class made in opposition was in regards to seminary and institute teachers. My response was that while according to the definition of priestcraft provided by scripture, that falls into that category, a possible difference could be that they do not choose their curriculum, and do not get paid more depending on how popular their teachings are. I'm just curious about your thoughts on that point.

Looking back four years later, I'm more firmly in the camp of it still being priestcraft and would probably fight that point with more directness than I did, but I do think it is in a different tier than the Rowes, Prouts, etc. if that makes any sense. Unpaid ministry has been a big attention grabber I use in missionary work that really perks ears, and something I'm proud to proclaim. Paid seminary and institute teachers dampens that, unfortunately.

Either way, the ignorance from my ward regarding such a basic concept was astounding to say the least. If you read the Old Testament, you learn not to marry the Canaanites (It's only mentioned about 500 times). Likewise, if you read the Book of Mormon you learn not to give Nehor your filthy lucre. It's only mentioned, I don't know, about 500 times.

Micah

11/6/2020 08:34:40 am

Nicolas,
Thanks for the comment.

It’s (seminary and institute teachers being paid) absolutely in a different tier than people like Prout, Rowe, Bytheway etc and the reason is because they are covered by the keys. Meaning, the keys have given it the okay therefore they are in the clear. The sin then would fall on those with the keys, not the teachers themselves. If it ever gets to a point in time where the Lord will not cover the keys He will remove them from office. Do I believe it is still priestcraft? Yes. And to further cement the point home, you leave heavily “Mormon” areas and seminary teachers become a calling just like every other calling. So the question is, why is my tithing going to Utah’s seminary teachers while my area’s seminary teachers do their calling without pay? It not only gives an arrow that enemies can shoot at the Church with, it gives arrows to members that they can shoot at each other. It’s one of the big three and it will be done away with, with punishments affixed.

Like I said in the video, people like to study topics that require no introspection. Topics that require introspection are uncomfortable so they would rather talk about coffee and tea because you know, 99% of them have no problem with that. When I was growing up from 2000-2004 the Church surveyed Latter-day Saint youth in Utah, Idaho, Arizona etc (heavily populated areas with LDS). One of the questions on the survey that caused concern was they asked the youth to rank severity of sin and they provided 10 commandments. Breaking the Word of Wisdom topped the list by over 50%. The Law of Chastity was somewhere in the middle of the pack to the bottom. Their conclusion was that the things that we talk about often became the things we thought were the most severe. The same is true with adults in the Church- idolatry and priestcraft are talked about very little despite the fact of their severity.

Kelsie

10/23/2020 12:56:16 pm

Thank you for all your work! I’m so grateful for what you do, especially with all the priestcraft and false doctrine that is circulating.
This question will not be very exciting for you to answer but I hadn’t realized we were commanded to know how to make our own clothes. So I was curious how you guys have prepared for this? I don’t even know where to start. I know there’s sewing (by hand or machine), knitting, etc. Just wondering if you’ve decided on a particular system you think would be best for hard times. (Like my guess is sewing machine is best usually but I’m assuming it needs a power source which wouldn’t always be available...)

Thank you, brother! 🙏🏽

Micah

10/24/2020 11:09:56 am

First and foremost, a lot of these commands were from all the way back in Brigham Young’s time. The expectation was for Saints to learn how to do this, learn how to be independent and industrious and then pass it onto their kids. The fact that none of us know how to do this anymore and it is hard to find people in the church who do, is a clear indicator that previous generations did not heed this call.

With that in mind, work from gathering to storage to self-production. Eg. Get a gun, fishing lines, water purifiers, etc. Then the next step is getting a year supply of food and stored and a year supply of clothing. Extra shirts, extra pants, shoes (so for us and our kids we have the next year’s sized clothes and shoes in the waiting). Then the next step is complete independence. Here you can learn how to make soap, learn how to grow crops, shear a sheep and make wool etc. Most people aren’t at this point.

Right now the easiest form of clothing that I have seen is:

1. Wool working: people own a few sheep, they shear them, wash and clean the wool, some will even dye it then spin it to yarn and then people learn how to crochet or knit. You can make socks, hats, mitts, sweaters etc.
2. Rabbit furs: for homesteading nothing beats the price/pound of that of rabbit meat. Rabbit furs I have seen made into hats, gloves, jackets, blankets etc.
3. Leather/hide working: deer, cow etc taking and making it into leather and then using it. This can be used in anything, pants, shirts etc.

We have become pretty spoiled with cotton but people’s ability to grow their own cotton is not very sustainable. There are people who will buy a whole bunch of fabric and keep it on hand and use it with sewing, but since you lack the means to produce it yourself (ie. you have to buy the item to store it to make it), there really is no difference between that and buying four sets a blue jeans and storing them for later use.

Kelsie

10/24/2020 08:32:33 pm

Thank you so much for your thorough response. It makes sense to me now. Great information I look forward to implementing!

Micah

10/24/2020 11:52:21 am

For those still confused about the multiple seven years of tribulation, sixth seal vs seventh seal etc, this is a very short video that explains it very well.

From Defending Zion's channel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxUTevy3W6M

Micah

10/24/2020 11:57:28 am

And Defending Zion's video about Joseph being sold into Egypt being a type was also exceptionally well done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYiSRTo9HU8

Kristen

12/9/2020 11:02:01 am

This is me seeing if we can comment on anyone's post.
I to enjoy Defending Zion's channel.

Mo Hyde

10/25/2020 04:36:43 pm

Hey Micah, i know you probably have tons of topics and papers you are working on or being requested to work on but I would really love a paper on the oath and the covenant. I feel like there is probably way more there that i am missing out on. Another perspective would be great. Thanks

Micah

10/29/2020 09:34:11 pm

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll add it to the list!

tyler warner

12/31/2020 03:35:12 pm

Yes, this. I would very much like a "The II" take on this.

Misty

10/29/2020 08:19:05 pm

Hi:) there are so many versions of "the teachings of the prophet joseph smith. Will you advise me on which one? 🙏 Thank you!
Misty

Micah

10/29/2020 09:24:08 pm

Hi Misty,
The book is Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith compiled by Joseph Fielding Smith.

It is also available online for free here:
http://www.boap.org/LDS/Joseph-Smith/Teachings/

Lcarter

11/3/2020 02:56:51 pm

I have a hard time understand how the Native American (remnant of joseph/Lehi's descendants) fit into the timeline.
Although we have seen the tribe of Manassah and many from south /central america blossom, the groups the gentiles scattered and trod down in US and Canada have not been gathered yet. The book of Mormon and Joseph Smith talk specifically about this group and yet it gets confusing to me when they are referring to them as a remnant and when they are referring to the remnant that is the the Lost 10.
I always thought it was the northern Native Americans that would be as a young lion in the midst of the unrepentant gentiles in 3nephi 21 and the Lost tribes would come later. Please help clarify. Thanks

Micah

11/6/2020 09:03:37 am

There are three different groups: Gentiles, scattered Israel and the ten tribes.

The ten tribes are literal Israel and will have very little, if any, mixing of their blood. Scattered Israel is the literal blood of Israel but that has been scattered all over the earth. There are varying degrees of mixture. Then there are the Gentiles which have very little, if any, of the blood of Israel in them and are brought in only by adoption.

The Church currently has, as its members, both the Gentiles and scattered Israel. It does not have the ten tribes as a body as members. The northern Native American Indians would be scattered Israel. The further away you get from them to South America they turn to Gentiles. Being from the tribe of Manasseh or Ephraim (for example) does not mean that you are scattered Israel. You could very likely be a Gentile that was just simply adopted into that tribe. So just because someone from Venezuela is from the tribe of Manasseh does not mean they are a descendant from Lehi any more than somebody from Romania being from the tribe of Ephraim is a direct descendant of Joseph.

If the remnant referred to only the northern Native American Indians, that would eliminate the ten tribes as a body. I go over this in my Jesus’ Macro Last Day Timeline.

Joseph Fielding Smith questioned “are we justified in applying [the remnant] to the Lamanites and saying that they are to go forth as a young lion pouring out vengeance upon the gentiles? Also does the phrase, ‘Ye who are a remnant of the house of Jacob’ in verse 16, have reference just to the Lamanites? The verses which follow indicate that it has reference to the remnants of Israel which had been scattered in all lands. To apply it to the Lamanites in face of theme of this discourse, in my judgment, narrows it too greatly.” (Doctrines of Salvation, 2:249-250)

Anna

11/6/2020 09:57:05 am

Hi, I have been admittedly kinda been an 'all is well in zion' type member till recently. I began searching in earnest around August/September, watched Youtube videos by Our Awful Situation then Jodi Stoddard, which i found mysterious but I was intrigued. Then I found yours while trying to learn about Isaiah and would like to share with family and friends your site. With so much information/papers, where would you suggest is a good place to start?

Micah

11/6/2020 01:16:29 pm

Hi Anna,
I get asked this a lot. For me, the most important paper that I believe I have done for Saints is The Parable of the 10 Virgins. Members accepting that and preparing accordingly is the most crucial thing to understand. Not accepting and preparing accordingly will be Saints from this time period greatest regret. There are other videos that I believe are important but nothing comes close to that. I also don't know how much longer this paper will be relevant- eventually the 5 unwise virgins get left.

Anna

11/6/2020 12:37:53 pm

What happened in 2015 that makes you say that since then we are 'ripe for destruction'. I don't disagree, just haven't watched all the video's yet to understand your point.

Micah

11/6/2020 01:10:21 pm

It's discussed in the paper The Generation, Temporal Preparation, and a slew of other places. Simply put, President Kimball said that the choices that we make now (1970-1985ish) will determine whether or not we go the way of Sodom and Gomorrah. In 1995 in The Family: A Proclamation to the World, we were again warned that the disintegration and mockery of the family unit WILL bring about the destruction foretold by modern and ancient prophets. 2015 we legalized homosexual marriage. Pretty clear progression.

Daniel

11/8/2020 02:08:57 pm

Thank you, Micah, for all you do.

Do you think wise virgins have mortgages? Some people probably have larger mortgages than they need. Some people choose a modest home in a place where their job is and where home prices are relatively high (e.g., the California Bay Area), so a mortgage is "necessary" to live there, unless they want to rent, which is many times not as fruitful as owning a home. I would imagine that someone who is frugal, has no debt, has a year supply of food, and yet has a modest mortgage can still be a wise virgin. What do you think?

Micah

11/11/2020 01:42:33 pm

Hi Daniel,

In my opinion I believe if your mortgage is low enough that it would be paid off if you sold your house you would be considered a wise virgin (along with the other things you listed). I don't believe members can simply "walk away" from their house mortgage and wash their hands of it as though it never happened and walk straight into Zion. I also believe the manner in which you are paying off your debt if an indicator. Are you living on a 30 year mortgage, barely making payments while you have multiple cells phones, are subscribed to all the works, take multiple vacations, etc etc? Members who think they can live one foot in Babylon and one foot in Zion and once things get hairy the Lord will allow them to jump both feet onto His side are addressed specifically (which should tell you something) in multiple revelations.

Shannon Jerez

11/13/2020 09:13:17 pm

Hi, I just listened to your ephraim men video. I was just curious your take on manasseh’s role? My husband is manasseh, although he is also part white, this means my 3 sons are manasseh as well, although I am ephraim?

Micah

11/20/2020 09:28:22 am

Ephraim and Manasseh are brothers. They were to inherit the promised land together. Due to wickedness and inability to overcome differences they killed each other until the Nephites were totally wiped out. They are collectively to be “the watchmen on the tower” directly before the Savior’s return. They will inherit the land of Zion (which we know consists of all the land of North and South America) with Ephraim. The only thing promised to Ephraim that was different was that the gospel would go through Ephraim to the house of Israel. For most intents and purposes they are so similar it is hard to interchange them and learning in the Book of Mormon we know that there were times when the Nephites were more righteous and times when the Lamanites were more righteous. And that the time period directly before the Savior’s coming the Lamanites were outshining the Nephites. The Lord promised once again that this would happen in the last days (Lamanites blossoming as a rose in the desert) and would be a sign that the end is near.

Tiffany Pentz

11/14/2020 06:39:36 am

Hey Micah,
Would you clarify who or what the Assyrian vs Gadianton are? I’m getting confused during the dualism discussion in Isaiah. Is it foreign countries that “scourge” America or domestic oppression (corporate entities that take our money while we worship our idol phones?) I feel like powerful corporations are in kahoots with certain government leaders that form the secret combinations. So I’m confused. If Babylon equals EVIL of the whole world then who is the Assyrian in modern day? How does Babylon overcome the Assyrian so the burdens of the people are lifted? What does this look like in America? Can you speculate here? Thanks!

Micah

11/20/2020 09:42:56 am

The Book of Mormon was written specifically for Ephraim and this continent. Babylon is the world. Check out Defending Zion’s video on Youtube, “The Mirroring Principle”. The Assyrian/Gadianton robbers are the problem here and will be until the Anointing in New Jerusalem, after which the Gadianton robbers and the Assyrian will be destroyed or at the very least removed from America. The focus then changes in Isaiah and the gospel to that of Babylon (the world) versus Judah and Jerusalem. This is when you get into “the beast kingdom” talk.

Tracy

11/14/2020 08:58:18 pm

Do you have a specific channel or website for Hyrum Andrus' stuff? Or just type in Hyrum Andrus on YouTube?

Also, do you think you could organize a playlist of the most important videos to watch and in which order?

I've now watched them all, but was thinking of which way to go about sharing with others. I know you've mentioned the parable of the 10 tribes first, but where would you go after that? Also, I know that that is a very general question and each person has individual needs, but was just curious what you would suggest.

Thanks!

Micah

11/20/2020 09:53:35 am

Light and Truth is where Hyrum Andrus’ lectures are posted. That said however, there are a couple of new videos posted there and I don’t know who they are done by.

To make such a list I’d have to be able to receive some sort of revelation over other people to determine the most important to the least important. It’s a little different versus me simply posting work when I feel I should post it. I’ll look into making more playlists however for people’s convenience such as “Parables”, “Last Days”, “Doctrine” etc.

Kristen

12/9/2020 11:12:08 am

Tracy,

Here is a suggestion of which videos to watch.
When I'm new to a Youtube channel such as "Light and Truth" or "Defending Zion" and even "The II LDS archieves" I often sort the "Videos" tab by picking the "most popular" then I see what is most resent but I also like to sort by oldest vidoe first. But most important, like Micah said it depends on what you are looking for. All of MIcah's vidoes are well titled. after seeing what I currently studying I go to that video. Micah has a great Macro timeline that might be a good place to start.

Tracy

11/14/2020 09:35:09 pm

Do you believe that Jewish holidays will play a roll in the timing of the last days events (ie Passover, feast of tabernacles, etc.)?

Micah

11/20/2020 10:00:29 am

I absolutely do believe that they will but I believe that the most important events for us as Latter-day Saints will not. We have Adam-ondi-ahman and the New Jerusalem, for this we have the Book of Mormon, the Parable of the Ten Virgins, the Parable of the Nobleman and the Olive Trees etc. All of those paint a similar picture. If it was as simple as a “Jewish holiday” or an eclipse that we knew was coming centuries in advance, there would not be so many unprepared. And some prophet would have mentioned it- it wouldn’t be so obscure. I personally believe that there is a very good chance that the Savior’s second coming to Palestine ie. to the Mount of Olives takes place during Passover 2033, exactly 2000 years after His resurrection.

Daniel

11/18/2020 10:54:05 am

Hi Micah, thanks for the papers on Revelation! In the one on Chapter 1-3, you state:

"This group of Saints, although they have very little power or strength in the Church collectively or politically or culturally, they have kept the faith and remained true and God promises them that they will not have to pass through the same tribulations. I believe this to be a direct blessing in direct connection to that of these Saints giving up Babylon. You give up a lot of Babylon “perks” when you live out of the city in the country. Internet, movies, restaurants, shopping, etc. the list is extensive. [ME: Even the remotest places of the earth have Internet.] And the Lord here is rewarding them for making that choice and living that lifestyle in that they will not have to pass through the same tribulations that the rest of the Church does. If you are worried about your faith, endurance, patience etc in tribulation but you have no fear or reservation about “leaving Babylon” you might want to consider moving to a farmstead in South Dakota."

A few questions:

1) What if you are NOT "worried about your faith, endurance, patience etc in tribulation"? Does that mean leaving Babylon/the big city is not needed or is somehow unwise? Of course, those with a family may want to seriously consider leaving the city because their children/spouse might not be as strong spiritually.

2) Have you heard of Riverbed Ranch in Utah, which is a community of like-minded individuals (mostly LDS) who want to be totally self-reliant? (https://osrcommunity.com/introduction-utah/). It sounds like an option for those who want to leave the city and learn the skills to be totally self-reliance. Curious to know what your opinion of that organization is, if you have any. They are considering organizing the same type of self-sustaining community in Idaho and eastern Arizona.

Micah

11/25/2020 09:25:45 am

I live in Kenora Ontario Canada and the best internet available to me allows me to email and purchase etc. But for streaming or zoom etc I have to drive to the Church. For 8 years I have been looking for internet to be provided out here and the only internet available is satellite. So internet to stream, zoom, game, download etc is very much not available everywhere. This is what I was referring to in regard to the internet, not sending emails.

A wise steward makes the best choice for his family in their situation reflecting their spiritual strengths and weaknesses. That could mean fleeing to another area and that very well could mean staying where you are. There are going to be some Jews converted by the 144,000. What would be the “wise” thing to do for them once they were converted? If they stay in Jerusalem they could die but if they stay they also might be able to save people. There will be many people who stay and I’m sure many who will flee. Both could be wise, both could be foolish. If you stay behind and fail and deny the faith or if you flee because you are a coward and you don’t have the means to flee (ie. you are fleeing expecting manna to fall down from heaven as you flee), both made an unwise decision.

I’m not familiar with that organization but I’m not a fan of “organized communities”- they almost always lead to disaster. This should be done as family units and extended family units until the literal gathering takes place. Organizations that teach individuals how to farmstead (live independently) I think are a better fit at the moment. Learning skills and trades one can never go wrong (eg. Blacksmithing, knitting, spinning wool, etc) but as soon as you move into these communities you rely on an economy that’s already skewed against you. It’s a Ponzi scheme with diminishing returns. You also, when part of a community, most of the time, have to deal with HOA or something similar. A lot of things that I would not deem good fits let alone preparation for the law of consecration (IMO).

A. Richardson

11/19/2020 01:31:15 pm

I just feel a strong need to thank you for all of your videos and especially your mission stories. I think you need to change the name of your website to ‘Manna from Heaven’ because that’s what it is to me. I LOVE LOVE LOVE having stumbled upon this information! Thank you again and I’m sure I’ll be messaging again with questions!
Thank you again and God Bless you and your family!

Micah

11/21/2020 07:34:00 pm

Glad you are enjoying the videos/papers!

Braden Dunford

11/20/2020 09:28:26 am

Micah, I live your work and I’m thankful for the time you put into educating us. I wanted to run a couple of things by you that I have been thinking about.
1. I heard that President Oaks spoke to a group of missionaries back in April timeframe that COVID was a test prep team provided to us by the lord. After I heard that I started to think that I normally take a prep test at most a week before I take my actual test. So I feel like this fits inline with your last day timeline. I was wondering if you heard oaks statement on that as well.
2. I was thinking about revelations and the beast with 7 heads with the whore of all the earth sitting on it, I wonder if that could be Kamala Harris as she is from San Francisco and is close to the tech industry with I believe is one of the heads, she is in government and could likely be the ruler of our country shortly after Biden is put into office (assuming Trump lawsuits don’t overturn current results) maybe I’m thinking to literally but what are your thoughts on this. I mean it would give joe Biden 6 months in office before she took over as president either by him stepping down or passing away etc. (I don’t wish harm on anyone).

Thank you for your time!

Micah

11/25/2020 09:48:16 am

I have not heard of Oak’s statement but your logic is not only sound but doctrinal. We know that
1. These events are to be as birthing pains
2. There is only one wake up, meaning if this is not it then there has to be enough time for people to fall back asleep for all of this to reoccur in a generation.
Not only do we not have enough time for this, at the rate that this is going people won’t be able to travel between countries the same way ever again and thus “worldwide pandemics” like this on this scale won’t happen again. It will be localized to single countries or groups of countries. There’s probably going to be screenings for sickness at airports, vaccination requirements/physical reports on passports (they already do this with animals, required paperwork from vet of physical and vaccinations). In summary, there isn’t enough time (the seventh thousand year, Joseph Smith prophecy, Talmage’s prophecy, Joseph F. Smith identifying the generation of the times of the gentiles, etc), they are to be birthing pains in that once the desolating sickness starts it just gets worse and worse until the birth of New Jerusalem, and is as you said the wake up and/or “test run”.
The whore that rides the beast was identified as the Great and Abominable Church ie. Babylon. There are five entities and we know with the mirroring principle or also known as dualism, the first shall be last the last shall be first, etc that when dealing with Ephraim and the New Jerusalem the Assyrian and “Assyria” are going to be the problem (see Understanding Isaiah). After New Jerusalem the Assyrian and Assyria “the yoke” of Assyria, is broken and the focus then changes from the Assyrian to Babylon and the world. The whore rides the beast kingdom but they are not friends. The anti-Christ or the false prophet or the stout horn, then makes his appearance and gives his power to the beast who then destroys Babylon (ie. the Great Abominable Church, the whore riding the beast) and then makes war with Jerusalem eventually and the army and its leader are destroyed at the Mount of Olives event.
My understanding is that Biden and Harris work for the Assyrian, they are a part of “modern day Assyria”.

Veronica Marlow

11/24/2020 08:43:44 pm

Micah, you're God sent. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge of the restored gospel with us!
I love studying the scriptures but it's hard to do it alone. I feel so blessed to have found your videos.
May our Heavenly Father bless you and your family a hundred fold for all the time and effort you have put in making these papers/vídeos.
Happy Thanksgiving!

Micah

11/25/2020 09:52:20 am

You are very welcome Veronica! I'm happy to hear they are helping you!

Tracy

11/29/2020 03:10:49 pm

I just watched your latest video about the 144,000. At the end, you posed the question if people would be found with enough faith.

This morning before even watching your video, I read an email that was sent out by President Nelson saying thanks for the response to his request about giving thanks and then asking the church to participate fully in the light the world campaign this year. The thought occurred to me that Pres Nelson is asking people to increase their action. He's asking them to stop being idle. When people do this, it results in greater faith (as per Alma 32) and also leads to repentance. It was just clear to me that without being overt about what is happening, he is trying to get people to be more faithful children of God. He's trying to help them open their eyes to be able to hear Him.

I'm great ful for your videos. Also, it was a treat to have a little shout-out (not obvious) in your housekeeping about youtube playlist order. 😁

Micah

12/7/2020 09:44:12 am

You are very welcome, as always. The intent of everything that I'm doing is to help the Saints increase their testimony of the Savior by deepening their understanding of the doctrine taught in His restored church. The more we learn from "His voice" which is in the scriptures, the more we learn His doctrine, the more readily we can see how everything connects, like you've just done.

Thank you for letting us know about the playlists, if there is anything else you notice send it our way, we are imperfect creatures but we are humble creatures and will make changes if the judgment is righteous.

God bless, God speed, keep the faith Tracy!

Daniel

11/30/2020 11:05:52 am

Hi Micah, thanks for your latest video on the Ten Tribes. A couple of points/questions:

1) You said, "Those who do not believe in or teach a figurative or spiritualized interpretation of the ten tribes as a body do so because they do not have faith that the Lord can perform such miracles." I think the more likely reason others "teach a figurative or spiritualized interpretation of the ten tribes as a body" is because it messes with their belief that the half hour of silence is ending soon and that we in the 7th seal, since Revelation 7 is clear that the 144K were sealed in the 6th seal.

2) How do you interpret these quotes if they are correct? From Orson Pratt: "There are persons in this congregation who will be in the midst of Zion, when the ten tribes come to Zion from the north countries, and will assist in bestowing the blessings promised by the Almighty upon the heads of the tribes of Israel. There are servants of God in the midst of this congregation who will lay their hands upon many of each of these twelve thousand, chosen out of the ten tribes, and set them apart as missionaries to visit the nations of the earth and hunt up the remnants of the seed of Jacob." Perhaps this was more of what would happen if the Saints lived up to the celestial law? Or could it be that some in that congregation would come back as resurrected beings and take part in setting apart the 144K?

If that is the case, then could Elder Talmage's quote ("The ten tribes shall come; they are not lost unto the Lord; they shall be brought forth as hath been predicted; and I say unto you there are those now living—aye, some here present—who shall live to read the records of the Lost Tribes of Israel, which shall be made one with the record of the Jews, or the Holy Bible, and the record of the Nephites, or the Book of Mormon, even as the Lord hath predicted") also be interpreted to mean that some in that congregation would be translated or resurrected when the records come back?

Thanks for all you do, Micah!

Micah

12/7/2020 09:57:05 am

Hey Daniel,

1. That would still make it a matter of faith because they don't believe that the words of Christ will be fulfilled literally. To believe in a figurative interpretation of the scriptures would be like Noah saying "you don't have faith in the Lord because you don't believe the floods are coming, you aren't building an ark" and the people responding "we do have faith in the Lord, we just believe that the flood is figurative and has already happened, it came with Enoch and therefore we are just waiting for translation like Enoch". It's exactly the same scenario. If you don't have faith in the words which we learn in D&C 18 are "the words of the Savior", the Lord says "you are not acquainted we me" meaning you don't have faith in me, you don't know me. People need to understand the severity of that. Going back to the 10 virgins, yes it was readiness that was the difference maker between the five ready righteous and the five unready righteous, but it was what the Savior said to the unready righteous group that should send up red flags for the Saints. "Ye know me not". So, how do we know the Savior? The Lord explains that in the scriptures and modern revelation, it is the scriptures and a plain and literal interpretation of them. We can think that we have faith in the Savior "but just in a different way" but to the Lord there are only two groups, there are those in the ark and those in the flood, there are those ready virgins and the unready virgins, there's the Church of Christ and the Church of the Devil. There is a pernicious lie that is sometimes taught in the Church and that is "members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" can't be members of the Church of the Devil. I completely agree with you that these individuals believe that, but the Lord taught us in D&C 84 that by believing that you don't have faith (among other things). For those wishing a breakdown, see my paper Tribalism, Covenants, Honesty.

Micah

12/7/2020 10:09:05 am

2. I go over this in the video version of the ten tribes paper. Joseph Smith's quote says "in the flesh" meaning the prophecy had to do with people yet alive and it would have been fulfilled in that generation if they had built the tower ie. New Jerusalem. When they lost New Jerusalem, the Lord said "things have been postponed for a season until my people are righteous and ready". Ergo, the prophecy that Joseph Smith gave there of those in the flesh was postponed ie. taken away, while Joseph Smith was still in the flesh. Much like the story of Jonah, the Lord said that he would destroy Ninevah but when the people repented the Lord did not destroy Ninevah, ie. the prophecy changed. We need to understand that prophecy has multiple ways of being fulfilled and every jot and tittle will be fulfilled but people and their obedience and disobedience in large measure determines that.
Elder Talmage's prophecy of some present living to see the ten tribes and their scripture was never revoked. The prophecy that Elder Pratt gave here does not say "in the flesh" and we know from Joseph Smith "how will this work wind up? Angels and man working side by side, hand in hand". Joseph Smith will return and with him many of those early brethren and they will be there when the ten tribes return and they will take part in those blessings that were promised to them. We also know that John the Revelator will be there, who is translated. There will be resurrected beings there and there will be translated beings there.

12/4/2020 10:59:39 am

Hi Micha. Thank you so much for all the work you have done and for making it available to the public.
As a result of the pandemic I started on a more earnest journey to increase my understanding of the events of the last days and the fulfilment of prophecy, which lead me to you and others. I appreciate your honest no-nonsense approach to teaching true doctrine.
I never really understood the big deal about Joseph Smith until I read your papers. I always had a testimony of the validity and importance of what he did in this life, but as a life long active member I don’t ever recall being taught in explicit terms the roll that he will play in the prepatory events leading up to the second coming and the millennium. I was absolutely mind blown and am now focusing my personal study on him, what he taught and how he will fulfil prophecy. So thank you! I think my time will be better spent on this than the many end of days time line you tube videos.
I wanted to ask you more about the Isaiah 4:1 verse where it says that seven women will take hold of one man and ask to be called by his name and take away our reproach, with reproach meaning to take away the stigma of not being married.
Now this verse has always bothered me for several reasons. Full disclosure I just turned 35 and have never married. I never thought this would be my path and I still hope for, pray and believe that I will get married at some point because that was promised to me in my patriarchal blessing and it’s a righteous desire.
As a single person in the church I have experienced the stigma of not being married in a family-oriented church many times and heard the well-meaning comments that a more hurtful than helpful many times. Even when I went through the temple the first time at 28 comments were made to me and my mother that were not Christ like. However, this to me not a good reason to get married, just to avoid the comments and stigma?? If the comments weren’t about being single then it would be about not having children or getting divorced people are going to be critical of you no matter what.
Second thing is, what is so bad about being single. I am completely independent I have a good secure job my own house and no debt (other than mortgage). I am active in the church, pay my tithing and have a year’s supply of food and close to six months of water. I grow veggies and herbs in my garden and am perfecting my canning game. In this verse it says that the women will wear their own cloths and eat their own bread, so I don’t really understand what the benefit was to these women to be called by another mans name. Am I missing a deeper meaning? Or is this verse simply just trying to explain that their will be more women than men in Zion?
Third thing, I believe marriages should be about mutual love and connection, two people equally matched with a shared vision of how they want to live and grow together. If I had wanted to get married just for the sake of being married, I could have done that at 20. I wouldn’t have romantically loved the man but I would have been married. It probably wouldn’t have been a good marriage and most likely would have ended in a divorce. I have a higher respect for the institution of marriage and my continence would not allow me to do this, believe me as the years went on I was really tempted to do this. It has been very challenging for me to go through life alone so far but I do know without doubt that it is Gods will for me and that I will be given all the righteous desires of my heart in due time if I live my worthily. Whether in this life or the next but that is what God promised me and God will keep his promises.

The last thing I wanted to say was in one of your latest papers on the conference talks, I don’t recall which you told the story about your mom leaving Manitoba to go to Utah because her chances of getting married were better and that the other women who stayed never married. I take issue with your opinion that this other woman wasn’t married simply because she didn’t want it bad enough. At least that’s how I interpreted it. Do you think all single people are single because they didn’t try hard enough to find a spouse? Did people that got divorced not spend enough time protecting and strengthening their marriages?
I can tell you right now that there is nothing more that I have desired than to be a wife and mother. I was born raised and live in Alberta so I had reasonable chance to meet someone here. I also went to BYU for two and half years and didn’t meet the one. How much of my time should I dedicate to finding a spouse? Every waking moment?? I tried that and it led me into becoming depressed and resentful. I spent many hours on my knees praying to find out the will of the Lord in this matter and the consistent message I get is, not yet. So I spend my time trying to improve myself, learn new skills and increase my own testi

Micah

12/7/2020 10:27:07 am

You are very welcome! I hope that they increase people’s testimony of the Savior and deepen their understanding of the doctrine taught in His restored Church while there is still time!
Joseph Smith is key- he is the head of our dispensation, he was the one foreordained to do this. There are those who have held the keys after him, but that does not mean that they were given the foreordination to use them. Just because somebody has the power and faith to heal someone and the priesthood authority, unless it is the will of the Lord it won’t happen. Joseph Smith was promised that he would be the one to do these things, he was not promised that he would provide the way for others who followed him to do it. Our entire faith is built upon the foundation that when the Lord promises us something that He will make it happen. If the Lord doesn’t fulfill His promises to a man like Joseph Smith, what makes us think that He would ever fulfill His promises to us? People might respond “well it doesn’t have to be literal”, to which I respond “do you want to literally be in the celestial kingdom or figuratively? Do you want to be there in person or in the thoughts of other people?” If we want the Lord’s promises to literally be fulfilled for us, then we should leap for joy when they are fulfilled for others and we should have faith that all will be fulfilled. You will learn more reading the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants and the Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith then you will from any youtuber, and that includes me and Brother Hyrum Andrus. We are simply trying to summarize, condense it, etc.

Micah

12/7/2020 11:11:18 am

I will answer your question, but I will answer the question in the way that I would want to be treated. You have to understand that it might not be the way you want to be treated, all I can do is treat you the same way that I would treat myself, my family and those that I love.
I have had this conversation with my younger sister who is 33 years old and she still won’t talk to me. She was one of my best friends growing up, I named my first daughter after my two sisters, I was honest with them because I love them and that is how I would want to be treated.
With that said, what do we know concretely?
1. One must be sealed in order to obtain the highest degree of the celestial kingdom. If one had an opportunity in this life and failed to take it they will not be given another opportunity. President Nelson recently addressed this with the story of the man who wanted to have his temple work done when he died, and I have a slew of other quotes from prophets of God explaining in great depth “what a real chance” entails. And it most certainly does not entail “prince charming”.
2. Does one need to be sealed to enter the celestial kingdom? No. But they will not obtain the highest degree, they won’t be given in marriage, for as the Lord taught “for they are not given or taken in marriage after the resurrection”.
3. The ten tribes when they return will have some aspects of the priesthood but not the fullness. And what does the fulness entail? Sealings. The stigma, you have to understand, is compounded by this contrast. You will have women from the lost ten tribes who shed tears of joy to be sealed to any man and women in the Church today have treated it as a thing of naught. This will awaken a lot of sisters to the very real reality that “obedience is greater than sacrifice”.
4. The stigma is tied to “let me have thy name”- this is a direct reference to sealing. So the stigma at its heart is the stigma of unrighteousness. Right now if a man in the church refuses to accept the oath and the covenant and received the Melchizadek priesthood, is there not a stigma against him? Are we not taught that men that refuse to accept this covenant that they will not obtain the highest degree of the celestial kingdom? And that they aren’t living up to their divine potential? Joseph Smith teaches that one of the two functions of the priesthood is to “seal man to endless lives” and endless lives is a woman and her divine potential to have children. So one’s divine potential is patriarchy and the other’s divine potential is that of creating lives. There is stigma against men who are not accepting and living up to their priesthood. But there is not such a strong stigma for women being sealed and having children, or at least according to Isaiah it is going to get worse. And once again, when the ten tribes return this problem gets compounded and plural marriage returns. We have experienced stigma because Ashley’s infertility and us being able to have children early in marriage. It was tough, but Isaiah is talking about a time period that will be even tougher. This is why there has been so much focus on strengthening the women of the Church right now.
5. Desire. I explain this in my paper but I don’t think I did a good enough job explaining it. First of all, just so everyone knows, Ashley was the one who wanted to include this example of my mom in this paper, she thought it would be a good contrast for people to see. People keep blaming me for everything and people need to understand that I’m married, The II is me and my wife, and I very much listen to her counsel and suggestions. As far as explanation, when the Savior told the rich man to sell all that he had, given it to the poor and come follow Him, what do we as members teach? We are taught that the man went away sad and didn’t do it and therefore he desired his riches more than the kingdom of God. People don’t raise their hand in Sunday School and say “well we can’t judge his desire. He could have desired to do it…” that reasoning misses the point entirely. He might have had desire to sell everything but his desire to retain everything was greater. Likewise, someone might have a desire to get married but they might have other desires that are greater. You describe how you have a desire for marriage but you also described another desire which was your desired traits in a spouse. Those desires you have are greater than the other desire. I ran into this a lot on my mission, “I desire to be baptized but I desire all these other things to happen first”. Adam and Eve, as far as we know, didn’t have others to choose from. In fact, they might have been married before they had their eyes opened. The idea of “an equal yoking” in marriage is not doctrinal. We like to believe that and because of that belief

Micah

12/7/2020 11:14:15 pm

continuation:

we then go back in time retroactively and paint people in lights that are different, such as the conflict between Sariah and Lehi- it was evident that she did not want to leave at first and insulted her husband, or that of the entire scope of Emma’s Smith life. We as members so desperately want them to be equally yoked, ie. Joseph was one of the greatest men to ever live, therefore Emma must have been equally great as well, that we go back in time and whitewash the truth about Emma. Marriages are not equal.
So I have no doubt based off of the IQ you have displayed and the characteristics that you have shown me that you have (all positives) that if you desired to get married more than anything else, you could get married within the year. You must have other desires that are greater than that. If one of the desires that is greater is “there isn’t an available man at my level of spirituality” that gets obliterated when plural marriage comes back. Because then you are saying “there isn’t a single worthy man in the entire church I could make it work with”. Ergo, the return of the ten tribes and the restoration of celestial marriage practiced in its fulness will compound this problem. And those that “did not take the time to learn the doctrine in the Lord’s restored church” will fall away.

So my suggestion in love for you is the same I gave to my sister in love: "decide where you want to end up and then do all that is required to get there. If you are not willing to do all that is required to get there, learn to accept where you will end up, for if you don't accept where your actions will end you up, you will rebel and fall to a lower glory." If you are content with simply being in the celestial kingdom, keep doing what you are doing and accept the outcome. If you want the highest degree of the celestial kingdom, do what is required to get there.

God bless, God speed, keep the faith.

Kristen

12/7/2020 05:28:49 am

Elder Crhistofferson gave a devotional at BYU Dec 12, 2017 and it was printed in this months (Dec. 2020) Ensign. If you havent seen it yet I think you might like the first paragraph in which he talks bout Joeseph.Smith.
"I am grateful that, in addition to Christmas, December brings an occasion to contemplate the life and contributions of the Prophet Joseph Smith, his birthday being on December 23. It is hard to appreciate fully what he achieved as an instrument in the Lord’s hands in an environment of constant opposition, persecution, and challenge. In a time to come, we will see the Prophet Joseph honored as the worthy head of this great and last dispensation—the one dispensation destined to succeed even though all previous dispensations have ended in apostasy."
I love all your papers and videos. I just printed the one called Joseph Smith returns. This is the most exciting of all the things I'm learning. Thank you so very much for sharing your work with us. -Kristen

Micah

12/9/2020 07:49:38 pm

Hi Kristen,
Thanks for sharing the quote! Joseph Smith to Return is my wife's favorite paper as well.

We got your other post but usually don't "approve" it until we have time to respond.

Kristen

12/9/2020 10:50:38 am

This is a long letter that is not well edited but there are questions in in it for you to answer if you want.

Dear Micah,

I’m the fan that sent you the quote from Elder Christofferson that I found in this months Ensign. “In a time to come, we will see the Prophet Joseph honored as the worthy head of this great and last dispensation—the one dispensation destined to succeed even though all previous dispensations have ended in apostasy. Chrsitofferson devotional address, “A Message at Christmas,” given at Brigham Young University on December 12, 2017. I shared it thinking you could add it to all the evidence that Joseph Smith Jr. will return.

When I added the above comment to your Q &A page I noticed something I can’t get out of my mind. It was your answer to a question posted recently about your opinion on vaccines. I know you are open to debate and open to other’s opinions so let me just say I do not see vaccines as protein bars whatsoever. I seen them more like sugar- like poison.
When I saw your answer I wanted to send you a message immediately. But I refrained because sometimes I’m over zealous in my desires. So I pondered wether or not I should share anything at all and as you can see I felt prompted to do so. My hesitancy wasn’t so much that you wouldn't read my letter but that you might not view the links I’m about to share. Please do watch them and give me your feed back. The topic of vaccines is especially important one in this time of Covid. But it has always been a important topic to me.
Satan and his minions (I’ll refer to them as “they” in this letter) have a hold on what is seen in the media and schools and what is taught ( or should I say not taught to Doctors) in regards to vaccines. Vaccines are thought by many people to be one of the great scientific health discover of our life time. But let me just say “they” are doing their best to restrict the information from all sources on the topic. But before I get into that I feel I should give you a little background on me and by so doing maybe you’ll get your first alternative view of to what “they “ say you must do.
I have lived in the western part of the United States all my life. Born in Az., grew up in California and have lived in Oregon all but two years of the past 20 yrs of my life. Before graduating from BYU I gave a class presentation on why vaccines are not what they are advertised to be. Back then (late 90’s) there wasn’t many books or articles on the topic readily available for my research and no internet yet but I do remember using the book “A Shot in the Dark” by Barbara Loe Fisher and Harris Coulter ( Barabar Loe Fisher in one of the pioneers in the areas getting correct information about vaccines out to the public and helping those who are injured by them. She is the co-founder the National Vaccine information Center)
My interest in vaccines started before college it came from my upbringing. My father was a Chiropractor and was trained in nutrition. From his studies he knew that the human body could heal itself if treated properly. So he vaccinated none of his children. We all went to public schools without shots. Those of us who went on stateside missions went without shots. I’ve raised my three children ( 16,13,10 years old now) without shots. And they are all registered in the local public school system. As much as “they” say it is mandatory to get vaccines, it is not depending on the state you live in. I know you live in Canada and you say the restrictions are more sever there but I’m thinking there are exemptions just the same, they just won’t tell you about them, you have to know and speak up for yourself and children.
Last years there was a Bill on the table to be made law here in Oregon. The Bill wanted eliminate all exemptions for getting vaccines. But we the people stopped it with our relentless contact with our retrospectives and rallies. It got personal so I fought back. We went to local and state capital rallies and I taught classes and spoke at a health seminar on the truths about vaccines.
I know how the propaganda is so very strong for vaccines but I believe so much of it is lies. There is so much evidences that is censored that it is truly hard to get a true education on the subject of vaccines unless you know where to look. I can directly to that information that you can’t find on Google and maybe not evenn Duck Duck Go unless you know just what you are looking for.
First I believe knowing what is in a vaccine is very important. You mention ed you study what is in the vaccines going into your children. I’m curious if you can name any of ingredients in your children's vaccines. Most doctors cant even name them. They just assume the CDC and the FDC have their best interest at heart. And when “they” sa

Micah

12/22/2020 08:54:52 am

Kristen,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Like I said before, in Canada there have been kids taken away from parents who refuse and I don't want to risk it here. When our son was born in the hospital they wanted to keep him overnight and we decided to take him home- they reported us to Family Services. Once I get back to the USA there is more freedom and I would only vaccinate against serious things like Polio. My wife is applying for her green card to be able to work/live in the USA and she (and our kids) are required to have all vaccinations up to date. Everyone will have to make their own decisions whether to vaccinate or not, but as I said before, if the prophet comes out and says to get vaccines we all should, regardless of whether they are "safe" or not. It is safer to follow the prophet. God bless!

Shelby

1/20/2021 07:07:32 pm

I would love to connect with you Kristen about vaccines. Especially after the big political media post of the prophet getting the experimental covid vaxx. Not really a vaxx, but a genetic modifier.

I was going to ask Micah about his thoughts on the promotion of this covid vaxx by the church leaders and the mask as well.
I find everything tied into covid to be purely evil. Even when I pray to be able to see the mask differently or for God to change my heart so I can be a "good global citizen" (which is really strange to say as I believe I am a Child of God, not the former) I feel it is just evil. The mask, the vaxx, the constant fear mongering of covid, the constant propaganda playing an posted everywhere.

But I read Micha's response to you and think his answer would still be the same.

Either way, would love to connect with you somehow.
Best regards!

Kristen

1/21/2021 09:55:32 am

Shelby,

I would love to talk... 541 363 2992 give me a call or email me at truthloveserve@protonmail.com

Kristen

God, Family & Country

12/9/2020 09:28:34 pm

Micah,

You mentioned other chapters in the Book of Revelation in several of your videos. When are you going to add those chapters to your 'Understanding Revelation' Series?
Keep it up brother, you are doing the Lord's work.

Micah

12/10/2020 09:49:50 am

Just posted Understanding Revelation: Chapters 6 and 7.

Also, I just found your friend request on Facebook- I don't use Facebook, I don't even have my own mother as a friend. I use it so people can messenger me (people can feel free to) as well as for this blog.

James C. MacLean

12/10/2020 01:06:21 pm

Hello brother Micah!

Thank you for striving to allow God to work through you! God is very great to save and enlighten!

I just listened to the paper on pride! It was well presented!

I agree that if pride was really understood properly, it would be transformative of peoples understanding of everything!

Its Amazing how inverted the meaning of pride is in the worlds eyes as opposed to Gods eyes! Its the polar opposite for the most part!

I believe its the most dangerous word there is! So I am very careful with it!

All the best and God bless you and yours in your journey!

Micah

12/12/2020 11:51:42 am

We almost expect the world to use it improperly, which they do. It's the members adopting sectarian views on these definitions that worries me more. Being "puffed up" or "arrogant" etc are all negative things (all of which I suffer from at times) but none of them are the sin of pride which is a far worse sin. A sin according to President Benson that is rarely understood. Joseph Smith taught "to be puffed up with correct although useless knowledge is a problem/sin, it is nowhere near the problem/sin of pride."

This is a perfect example of most members seeing splinters in others' eyes and not recognizing the beams in their own.

God bless, God speed, keep the faith

James again

12/14/2020 07:48:07 pm

Ah! Yes! keeping splinters out of the eyes is a very challenging excercise! Very challenging it is to continue to put it all on the alter and let it be consumed!

Hey!
I was listening to your latest on the Book of Revelations, and you said something that was music to my ears!

The Hollow Earth Theory! I read a book about it, by a non member named Jan Lamprecht, where he made mention of the Doctrine and Covenants having hints pointing towards the theory! Its totally real! It makes so much sense!

The lost tribes is one of my favorite things to consider in the restored Gospel! The possibility that they will come up out of one of the vast inner expanses in the planet is so interesting to think about! I am very very anxious for them to come!

I read one book by Suzzane Freeman, who had a N.D.E. and saw what the lost tribes would have when they come back.
You will like this...( Im not into fighty stuff anymore... Ive made covenants of non violence)... they will have hovering tanks mounted with laser cannons!

Laser tanks! Also! Laser mounted hovering aircraft! So cool... yet so tragicly neccesary... Yes!

I know this has to be true! The tech has been supressed!

Anyway! Thanksgiving!

You are the only members Ive heard of to ever mention the Hollow earth theory and have a strong testiony of the lost tribes! I loved how you mentioned Elder Talmages prophecy about them back in 1917 G.C.... or somewhere around that year... two conferences in a row her prophesayed about them! They have to be coming so soon!

You seem uncommonly aware of many amazing things! Thats great to hear!

Blessings!

Our God is great!

James again! (Just watched your latest video!)

12/14/2020 09:24:43 pm

Hey thanks for your latest video!

I was thinking, that this election steal, was like a character assassination of Trump, not a literal assassination... perhaps this could qualify as the short feather in Ezras Eagle! He won, but it was stolen! Yes... that could qualify yes?

Also! That is a very creative and telling word construction “fraud” that you made! Ha! Right! The way the Biden votes just exploded defying all logic... the corruption is so deep, on every level.... the Sidney Powel was saying that the CIA is most likely behind it... yes.... it seems all the overthrowing of governments that the CIA had been engaged in for decades finally had the appetites to overthrow this one more completely satisfied!

I would not say a rigged election is a appointed king though... well... actually... the fraud system is now set up to be permanent... Demoncrats will be permanently elected to power now... until all Republicans are removed... or take the country back by violence... So... I guess it is functioning like a Kingdom now in a indirect way.

I got to work in a Temple for a while... and... while it had spiritual highs... it was also very disturbing to be there to see the casualness of behaviour... there was just something wrong... very wrong... I felt like God told me I was done serving there... and a few weeks... or a month or so later, all the temples started closing down... Yes... the attitude toward temples needs to be cleansed... yes... an examination of what is withing... meditation... deep profound meditation... silence and reflection... bring joy so deep! So deep! The amount of training and miracles that are needed is astounding!

Wow! Yes....

James one more time

12/14/2020 09:40:49 pm

I should also say I certainly have big weakness problems... with pride, irritability, impatience... jelousy.... Its really humiliating sometimes! Im so helpless without God.... cant even change my own diaper. (Is that really an exageration? Sometimes I wonder....)

AwokenSaint86

12/13/2020 11:50:11 am

Micah - thanks for all you do. What are your thoughts on the Mark of the Beast? Are we able to decipher where in falls in the macro timeline? Based on your papers, it sounds like any thoughts on it is pure speculation but I am curious to know how you go about thinking about it and any general thoughts.Thanks

Micah

12/22/2020 08:57:52 am

I go over this in my fireside test and Brother Hyrum Andrus goes over it a lot in his lectures. I believe that the Assyrian/Great and Abominable Church/Whore of all the earth are going to be Ephraim's problem. The Mark of the Beast and the Anti-Christ are going to be gentile and Old Jerusalem's problem.

12/13/2020 04:21:53 pm

Hi Micah,

Firstly, thanks so much for all your work. It provides great insight and hope.

Secondly, I'd like to know a bit more about what you referred to a previous comment as a "real chance" is (as it pertains to one's ability to choose fairly whether or not they choose saving ordinances or not). What would constitute a "real chance" for people?

Best Regards

Micah

12/22/2020 09:09:20 am

I will post a three part collection (a quote from Elder McConkie, and a series of quotes from President Kimball and President Joseph Fielding Smith).

The two quotes from President Kimball that I will be including are both included in my Celestial Law paper. Based off of the example provided by President Kimball, members should have a clear view on what a "fair and just opportunity" is.

God bless, God speed, keep the faith

Micah

God, Family & Country

12/15/2020 02:09:32 pm

Hello Micah, I watched your video last night titled, 'El Fin'. In it you didn't want to talk about a fraudulent election. Can you or will you give your thoughts, etc. via your written paper in regards to that section you quickly passed over?...
Also I'm not on FB or social media of any kind, so ther must be another 'God, Family, and Country' wanting to "friend" you. God bless and keep up the good work.

Micah

12/22/2020 09:25:31 am

It's mostly political and I'll leave that to people who would do a much better job (Glenn Beck).

Anyone with a 3rd grade education and are honest knows this was a fraudulent election. I'm also not biased, I'm one of the very few Trump supporters who liked Trump and his policies more in 2016 than in 2020.

Biden did not get 10 million more votes than Obama. Biden did not get over 95% of the vote in legal mail in ballot dumps. There's no way. And if we accept the president on a fraudulent election, we are no different than Venezuela. We have a dictator in office, we have a king. And the Lord tells Americans what's going to happen next if we allow kings in this land.

Jay Roberts

12/16/2020 02:21:29 pm

Micah,

I really appreciate your video/paper on Revelation 6-7. Thank you! I have a question, request and suggestion.... Thank you in advance for your time and consideration.

First my question:

Revelations 7:14 reads "....These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." at this point John and the Angel are seeing those in the 6th seal. 7th seal isn't discussed until Chapter 8. So, am I correct to think that this isn't "THE" tribulation? These are the saints who went through great tribulation during the famine/scourge/Assyrian which will be very tribulatory (not a word but I like it) but "THE" 7-year tribulation happens in the 7th seal. Righteous Saints will be happy and protected in New Jerusalem by the time "THE" tribulation caused by the anti-Christ happens in the 7th seal right? Blake even described this time in the 6th seal as a tribulation in 1 of his videos and went back and change it to a famine. Thanks for your opinion and clarification.

Request:
In your El Fin video you hesitated to talk much about His Majesty King Biden-elect. I would love to read your thoughts on your blog as long as YouTube hasn't taken control of your blog. I have been following the fraud stuff pretty closely and anyone who believes in a HUGE widespread fraud scandal is made to feel like a conspiracy theorist by media and people "with level heads". How do you see this in relation to the signs of the times?

Suggestion:

Can you flip the discussion thread on this question and answer page so the newer posts are at the top? I don't know if that is possible but if it is that would be awesome!

Thanks for all you do and I know that Christ lives and will reign again on this Earth. I am not looking forward to the birthing pains and labor process of the establishment of Zion but you are helping me know the reward is well worth it and blessings promised to Covenant Israel are absolutely incredible. I pray I will Hear Him and learn how to let God prevail in my life. You are helping me and I thank you very much.

God bless you Brother!

Micah

12/22/2020 09:33:41 am

There's our tribulation, then there's Jerusalem's tribulation, then there's the heathen nations' tribulation.

Ephraim's tribulation is all of the green highlights in those papers, Joseph in Egypt as a type, etc. Jerusalem's trials are when we get into the seventh seal and have the vials/plagues.

Famine is definitely included in that, when you read the green highlights, famine is definitely included, but there are other things that are mentioned in the green that let us know that it is not simply going to be just a famine.

See my comment above about Biden.

I'll look again, but I don't think I can change the order of the comments.

God bless, God speed, keep the faith!

Gabriel

12/17/2020 11:03:03 am

Micah: Thank you for what you have produced and shared. I am grateful for it.

What are your thoughts on President Hinkley's declaration that the vision of Joel was fulfilled in the October 2001 GC?

Quote: "The vision of Joel has been fulfilled wherein he declared:

“And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

“And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

“And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.

“The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the Lord come.

“And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the Lord hath said, and in the remnant whom the Lord shall call” (Joel 2:28–32).

Living in the Fulness of Times
October 2001
Gordon B. Hinckley

I am specifically interested in your thoughts on vs. 31 about the sun being turned to darkness, and the moon into blood.

The reference to the sun and moon are also referenced in Rev. 6:12 after the opening of the 6th Seal. The stars are mentioned in the next verse 6:13, but the stars are not mentioned in the vision of Joel.

In D&C 29:15, the sun, moon, and stars are mentioned in the same verse. Same in D&C 34:9, 45:42, and 88:87.

Are the references to the sun and moon in the vision of Joel being declared fulfilled in October 2001 the same as the other references to the sun in moon in the other scriptures I mentioned? But the reference to the stars have not been officially declared fulfilled by a prophet because they are not mentioned in the vision of Joel?

P.S. I started really feasting on the signs of the times when I watched the Jodi Stoddard video back in June. It did cause me to search the scriptures and the prophets much more diligently. I watched her video presentation several times and took extensive notes with the intent of trying to prove each assertion made as incorrect. The idea of being in the 7th seal was exciting but it just didn't seem plausible, and the conclusion that we are in the seventh seal was based on weak conjecture and hearsay at the Palmyra Temple dedication. The first time I came across your video on the 7th seal frankly really ticked me off the first time I watched it. I was upset because it frustrated my joy that things happening in my mind were much closer, but in a different format than what is actually stated in the scriptures. Between the Hyrum Andrus lectures, and your lectures, and most importantly, continued feasting in the scriptures and guidance from the Holy Ghost has made the order of things much more clear. The 7th seal has clearly not been opened, but that does not mean that wonderful things for the Saints are not that far off. Let God Prevail. Thank you Micah!

Micah

12/22/2020 09:58:21 am

My belief is that President Hinckley didn't do a good job in separating what had been fulfilled and what still will be fulfilled. In the Joel quote is a reference to the Great and Dreadful Day- obviously that part hadn't been fulfilled.

There's a mention of the remnant returning to Mount Zion- that also obviously hasn't happened yet.

I don't think that most of the Joel quote has been fulfilled, but I think the first part has, but that part was fulfilled back in Joseph Smith's time.

I completely agree in that the wonderful events promised to the Saints are not far distant and I believe we will live to see the literal fulfillment of these things,

God bless, God speed, keep the faith

Micah

12/23/2020 09:22:26 pm

Here are Hyrum Andrus' thoughts on it:

QUOTE
Moroni also quoted Joel 2:28–32. “This was not yet fulfilled,” he told Joseph, “but was soon to be” (JS–H 1:41). The prophecy focuses on a day when, says the Lord, “I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh” (Joel 2:28). In his opening address during general conference on October 6, 2001, President Gordon B. Hinckley quoted these verses and affirmed that the Saints now live in a day when the Lord is beginning to pour out his Spirit and that all of the Lord’s words through Joel concerning the last days will finally be fulfilled.

In this prophecy the Lord portrays both judgments and blessings to come in the latter days. Joel speaks of a great “northern army,” a “heathen” power, to come into the Lord’s land (Joel 2:20, 17). The people of Zion will “sanctify a fast” and call “a solemn assembly,”
at which time God will “be jealous for his land, and pity his people.” Said the Lord, “I will remove far off from you the northern army. . . . Fear not, O land; be glad and rejoice: for the Lord will do great things” (Joel 2:15, 18, 20, 21).

Speaking of the greater fulfillment of blessings and events in the last days, the Lord then states through Joel: It shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: and also upon the
servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my Spirit.

And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the Lord come. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the Lord hath said, and in the remnant whom the Lord shall call (Joel 2:28–32).
END QUOTE

Mo Hyde

12/18/2020 09:50:01 am

Question for Sunday:

I am interested in where the 10 tribes will come to. I know you have used the scripture reference that uses the word "mountains" so you have thought Utah. In Blake's videos he has clearly stated that they are coming to New Jerusalem. I would love to hear some discussion between you three regarding this. I'm excited for the fireside. Thanks

Micah

12/22/2020 10:06:07 am

I totally forgot to bring this up at the fireside.

To answer your question, it is all of the above. But what I think you are asking is, where do they go first? Because the New Jerusalem will be being built that means that there might not be a temple there yet, let alone a multitude of temples yet. These people will need to have their temple work done as they don't have the higher ordinances of the gospel. It does mention that they will go to the mountains, the everlasting hills, and that the deserts will bloom etc which leads me to an understanding that their first destination will most likely be the Rocky Mountains and the Salt Lake Valley. Here they will learn and accept the higher ordinances of the gospel, but do they stay there? The answer is no, they will expand out and inhabit the desolate cities of the gentiles. Will some of them be in New Jerusalem? Obviously, but the bulk of them will be inhabiting the desolate cities.

Will they be given permanent inheritances in any of those locations (Rocky Mountains, Salt Lake Valley, desolate cities, New Jerusalem)? The answer is no, not if they are not from tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh. Their inheritance will be temporary. After the events in Old Jerusalem these ten tribe will again make a journey back to the lands of Palestine and receive permanent inheritances there as they expand out and inhabit the desolate cities of the heathens.

Mo Hyde

12/27/2020 11:58:34 am

Yes, that was my question. I was wondering when they come from the north, are they coming first to Utah area or to New Jerusalem? Blake make's it sound like they would come from the north directly to New Jerusalem which is different than where you have said. I was just interested in you two having some discussion about it. Maybe next time??

Mary

12/18/2020 11:23:45 am

Micah, thank you for the work you do.

Could you please do a paper about the Sabbath Day? I need to do better but feel like I'm missing the mark.

Also, I feel like you could look at the difference in the Women's session of General Conference and Priesthood meeting from a different perspective.
I used to take my son's to Priesthood Meeting and sit in the back while my husband sat home. It felt like they were always telling the men to "Do more, quit being lazy."
At the Women's session, in contrast the message was "Don't be so hard on yourself. You are doing a good job, keep it up."
I also felt that that was the message of President Eyring at this last conference, that the women will be doing the heavy lifting of establishing Zion. Women tend to be hard on themselves and need loving encouragement rather than a harsh reprimand to do more & do better.
My personal experience has made me realize the men who love the Lord and honor their priesthood are rare, essential and greatly appreciated.

Micah

12/22/2020 10:27:42 am

Doing a paper on the 10 Commandments has definitely been on my list for a long time, as we learn in 3 Nephi 25:4, it will be one of, if not the major benchmark that Joseph will use in his "discerning between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not" (3 Nephi 24:18).

I completely agree with your assessment that men are chastened and women are encouraged. The problem comes in the interpretation of why this is. I don't care how people interpret it, as long as it is based on principles and they apply those principles equally. For example, if one were to say "the men need chastening because they are bad and the women need encouraging because they are good", then one would need to show how the men were being bad specifically and how the women were being good specifically. And I don't believe that any sane, rational person could make such a case. Do people really believe that if you took standards and applied them to men in the Church (we need to understand that women already outnumber men 2-10:1 depending on what part of the world you are in) and then equally apply those standard to women in the Church that you would find that women are just that much better than the men? I don't believe that someone could logically prove that case. I know that if you took a sample of everyone in the WORLD and you compared men to women, women generally speaking would be living a higher standard than men. But we are talking about men and women in the church, so if one is saying that women respond better to encouragement, who's to say men wouldn't respond better to encouragement? Women are definitely encourgaged more in the Church and men are definitely chastened more in the Church. That's a fact that everyone should be able to agree to. It's in the exploration of the why and the principle behind it which we must apply equally to both that causes people (and mostly women, men are already being chastened remember) who then get their feathers ruffled.

Mary

12/18/2020 12:29:53 pm

The guy in 17 miracles that you keep referencing for being humble & taking chastisement of leaders was Levi Savage.

Micah

12/22/2020 10:30:45 am

Levi Savage is one of my heroes of the early Church. He spoke the truth even when it got him in trouble, but he always was willing to repent and he was most certainly willing to suffer with the Saints.

God bless Mary!

tropicalflower

12/21/2020 11:27:20 am

Micah, I remember you saying that if plural marriage comes back on the flesh, the wife has the choice to allow or not her husband to practice it. Like choosing to own a gun or not, simple as that. But you didn't mention that if she didn't allow it she would be the sinner and would be destroyed.
Am I understanding these 2 verses right?
D&C
64 And again, verily, verily, I say unto you, if any man have a wife, who holds the keys of this power, and he teaches unto her the law of my priesthood, as pertaining to these things, then shall she believe and administer unto him, or she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord your God; for I will destroy her; for I will magnify my name upon all those who receive and abide in my law.
65 Therefore, it shall be lawful in me, if she receive not this law, for him to receive all things whatsoever I, the Lord his God, will give unto him, because she did not believe and administer unto him according to my word; and she then becomes the transgressor; and he is exempt from the law of Sarah, who administered unto Abraham according to the law when I commanded Abraham to take Hagar to wife.

Micah

12/22/2020 11:42:52 am

I started writing something but it isn't going to fit here. I'll post a mini-paper on the blog when I'm done.

tropicalflower

12/21/2020 11:30:23 am

In your fireside test, you mentioned the Word of Wisdom and also mentioned a law of health... What is this law of health? Isn't what we as lds believe and follow called the "Word of Wisdom"?
Since the beginning of this year, I've been trying to follow the part of the WoW that counsels us to eat meat of fowls and beasts sparingly, so now I only eat them here and there. I miss eating those meats more often, but I want to be obedient and follow the WoW and receive the blessings it promises, including not be destroyed by the "destroying angel".
My question: Am I doing unnecessary sacrifice here? Are we or are we not to eat those kinds of meats only sparingly (winter and famine times)?

Micah

1/7/2021 09:32:35 am

I believe I answered this in subsequent firesides but let me know if you still have questions.

AwokenSaint86

12/23/2020 05:52:40 pm

Micah- in your paper a test, a test, a test, on page 4 point 6 you say, Missouri potentially purged of all inhabitants. I have heard you talk about this and the quote of Brigham Young. I am curious if there is a reason why you say “may” verse “will” in your paper. Thanks

Micah

1/7/2021 09:41:39 am

There are some people who get their panties in a bunch because we don't actually have the recorded prophecy of Brigham Young. We do have Elder Heber C. Kimball, Brigham Young's best friend, standing up and repeated the prophecy word for word over the pulpit (this is the quote I'm using) and Brigham Young (nor anyone else) correcting him. We also have John Taylor's dream but once again it was recorded by Wilford Woodruff. I say "could be" purely because I know "LDS" Youtubers who have nothing better to do in their lives other than follow me around and grift will do what they do best, priestcraft mingled with grifting. I believe the collection of prophecies surrounding the time period (including D&C 101) paint a clear enough picture.

tropicalflower

12/23/2020 07:47:55 pm

I was reading the comments here and I've finally understood one thing: the reason why endless temples keep being built in UT (we don't even get excited anymore about temple announcements in UT), like it's many more temples than the people living there actually need. IT IS FOR THE 10 TRIBES! That's why! Thanks for helping me learn this, Micah.

Anonymous

12/23/2020 09:27:23 pm

Micah,

I dont think you have a clue comparing a a gay person to a missile. That was NOT a good parable. Human beings are still human, and even though the gays and lesbians and even the transgenders are wrong in what they do and and how they live, I'd say it is mental and chemical that has made them have these great challenges. At the table choosing to eat with a gay person and bringing them into your home??? YOU just wait until it happens to YOUR OWN child! You'll say, but I taught them, and as a child they believed. Guess what, you dont get to decide who has these problems. Being tolerant? Well, this DID happen to my daughter. She knows I do not only disapprove of her lifestyle, but there is NOTHING I can do to bring her back, EXCEPT just love her and use tolerance. You have no idea once it's your own child!!!!!! Do I tell people it's ok or that I have changed my stance whether homsexuals should get married. NO! She was 15 when she came to us. I even begged boys to just take her out on a date to change her. She said she felt dirty with them. You seriously don't understand. It doesn't even matter if your protect and shield them from the world, it happens to the best of people. Well, my daughter doesn't even believe in God now from members like you who are shouting how evil they are, comparing them to a missle!

So, am I ill from what you just said? Yes. I sure hope you review these papers with your wife first before spouting off. You could use a good lesson.

I hope I can cool off and even watch any of your videos again.

Micah

12/23/2020 09:28:50 pm

I didn’t compare “a gay person” (I already disagree with your premise, that a person “is gay”, I know that people either A) participate in homosexual behavior or B) they don’t, and those are choices they make regardless of chemicals and birth) with a “missile”. I compared the missile with the “abandonment of our cardinal value and virtues”. Human beings are absolutely still human, that doesn’t mean that God doesn’t destroy the wicked because they are “human”; if they are wicked humans God destroys them, and those who surround them and support them and sustain them (ie. “the whole city” or “society”).

There are sins and then there are “most grievous sins” and then there are “sins of open rebellion”. If my child chose to marry outside the covenant, let alone “married the same sex”, I would absolutely take the stance of Joshua, “you can do whatever you want in your own home, but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord, and represent him, and avoid the appearance of evil”. Members would not be “okay” with a man or son bringing home a prostitute or escort to eat dinner with the family in front of their children, and that sin is a far lesser sin than that of homosexuality, let alone homosexual marriage. Those aren’t my opinions, those are doctrines of the kingdom that have been established for literally thousands of years (this is not a “post Joseph Smith” understanding, this isn’t even a “post Sodom” understanding…)

I don’t believe that if I “hide my children from sins” they won’t find them, or they won’t fall prey to them! Obviously that isn’t the case! But… that doesn’t mean that society (parents) won’t be held to account for what they INTENTIONALLY promote to their children- this was the entire purpose of Elder D. Todd’s talk. We will be held to account for what values we promote and allow to fester in society- and “having dinner with ‘married’ homosexual couples” is giving validity and normalcy to the act.

The church for 150 years, clearly taught this doctrine, and from the years of 1995 to 2015, as I said, this “debate” we are apparently now having raged in the church, after which members “drove the doctrine, or those teaching it, into the shadows”. You even teach it or bring it up and members will accuse you or “not knowing anything”, “intolerance”, etc. and shame you out of teaching the pure doctrines of Christ. That is WHY our society is doomed.

Once again, in the talk, it is explained that “it is the ACT of doing and promoting these sins that causes people to deny the faith”, it is NOT “because of the members TEACHING the faith”- “for behold the word of God causes the wicked to tremble and become angry”- you can’t blame that on anyone but the wicked.

I’m sorry that you are ill, it is not my intent to make people “tremble and be angry”, it is my intent to share the Word of God, the doctrines taught in the Lord’s restored church. Those were not my quotes, or my thoughts, those were the quotes from President Kimball, President Joseph Fielding Smith, Elder McConkie, etc. and in this talk, Elder D. Todd Christofferson.

My wife actually scribes the grand majority of these papers, including this one, and she more times than not is the one telling me to put even more in. This is a important discussion and so I would like to remove your name from the email and post it on the blog along with this answer.

God bless God speed, keep the faith

Micah

12/23/2020 09:36:59 pm

Joseph Fielding Smith explained, “The commandment of the Lord that the saints should make themselves ‘friends with the mammon of unrighteousness,’ seems to be a hard saying when not properly understood. It is not intended that in making friends of the ‘mammon of unrighteousness’ that the brethren were to partake with them in their sins; to receive them to their bosoms, intermarry with them and otherwise come down to their level. They were to so live that peace with their enemies might be assured. They were to treat them kindly, be friendly with them as far as correct and virtuous principles would permit, but never to swear with them or drink and carouse with them. If they could allay prejudice and show a willingness to trade with and show a kindly spirit, it might help to turn them away from their bitterness. Judgment was to be left with the Lord.” (Church History and Modern Revelation, 2 vols. [1953], 1:323; see also Doctrine and Covenants Student Manual, 2nd ed. [Church Educational System manual, 2001], 179.)

Definition of 'to one's bosom':
If you take someone or something to your bosom, you accept them and treat or regard them with great affection

Definition of "carouse with":
To drink, eat, party., celebrate, etc

Micah

12/23/2020 09:57:14 pm

From the LDS New Testament Student Manual:

Matthew 5:29–30. “Pluck It Out, and Cast It from Thee”
The Joseph Smith Translation makes it clear that the Savior did not encourage His followers to literally cut or disfigure themselves. The Savior said, “And now this I speak, a parable concerning your sins; wherefore, cast them from you, that ye may not be hewn down and cast into the fire” (Joseph Smith Translation, Matthew 5:34 [in Matthew 5:30, footnote b]).

The Savior used startling images to teach followers the importance of casting away their sins and removing themselves from sinful places, people, and situations (see Matthew 5:29–30; 18:8–9; Mark 9:43–48; Joseph Smith Translation, Mark 9:40–48 [in the Bible appendix]).

President Joseph Fielding Smith (1876–1972) taught that the terms “right eye” or “right hand” can mean “close friends or relatives who [endeavor] to lead us from the path of rectitude and humble obedience to the divine commandments we receive from the Lord. If any friend or relative endeavors to lead a person away from the commandments, it is better to dispense with his friendship and association than to follow him in evil practices to destruction” (Answers to Gospel Questions, 5 vols. [1957–66], 5:79).

Matthew 10:34–37. “He That Loveth Father or Mother More Than Me” (see also Luke 14:26)
In these verses Jesus Christ declared that His message would not always bring peace. In fact, choosing to make God preeminent in one’s life might even result in divisions within a family. President Ezra Taft Benson (1899–1994), in commenting on this scripture passage, noted that one of the most difficult choices a person might make is choosing between God and a family member:

“One of the most difficult tests of all is when you have to choose between pleasing God or pleasing someone you love or respect—particularly a family member.

“Nephi faced that test and handled it well when his good father temporarily murmured against the Lord (see 1 Nephi 16:18–25). Job maintained his integrity with the Lord even though his wife told him to curse God and die (see Job 2:9–10).

“The scripture says, ‘Honour thy father and thy mother’ (Exodus 20:12; see also Mosiah 13:20). Sometimes one must choose to honor Heavenly Father over a mortal father” (“The Great Commandment—Love the Lord,” Ensign, May 1988, 5).

Lindey CARTER

12/28/2020 08:25:53 pm

Hey Micah and Ashley,
It's official (sigh) I posted my first youtube video. I know you are getting swamped with emails but I just wanted to say thanks for getting us started. Ive been going to church and through the all motions only to find myself slowly starving to death while getting fat on the never ending diet of watered down doctrine of opinions. Your "obnoxious" ;-) voice has been the voice of the Savior for me. I recognized it immediatly and started to make the changes I needed to to prepare for His coming. Thank you. Sincerely Lindey

my video
https://youtu.be/Fkr8JXgqoWk
ps give my obnoxious voice at least 5 minutes before you get too judmental about what it's saying

Micah

12/28/2020 09:28:12 pm

We must have clicked on the wrong link because we got sent to a channel called Looking Up and the video was narrated by a very intelligent woman with a pleasant voice...

:) :) :) :)

We obviously subscribed. Your attitude and approach to doctrine is spot on and we look forward to listening to what you put out next!

God bless, God speed, keep the faith

John

12/29/2020 12:28:43 pm

Hey Micah. I had a question that has perplexed me recently. There are few people like you who speak openly about the return of Joseph Smith and there are others who talk of the Dividic servant of the last days. Some who write about or expound on the dividic servant say that he will not be Joseph smith but they (Joseph Smith and the Dividic servant) will work together to usher in the last days. Is Joseph that servant or are they separate. I know what my heart tells me but I thought I'd ask.

You've videos and papers have been very eye opening to me and I wish I could share them with everyone who would listen. Thank you.

Micah

1/7/2021 09:49:53 am

This is a focus of Gileadi, a one time excommunicated member who trains crazies, and I mean that literally, he trains crazies. It is a cult following where all of his followers peddle his doctrine and promote the selling of his books (priestcraft). I know that Joseph Smith will return and what he will do; I also know that John the Beloved will return and what he will do. People can argue about names all they want, its like a macro vs micro timeline. We know that most of the early patriarchs of the Church had their names changed as they inherited blessings; Joseph could have a similar name tacked onto him at any time. Ergo, we should focus less on the name.

Stan Swallow

12/30/2020 03:53:42 pm

A few years ago leaders of the church, Boyd K. Packer, James Foust, {in conference} among others talked about a doctrine where parents, after obtaining exaltation could bring their children up into the celestial kingdom and become saviors themselves. Robert Millet even wrote a book about it. {when a child wanders}
These children would have to pay for their own sins. Murder and denying the Holy Ghost would exempt them from this blessing. I haven't heard much about this lately.
Have you heard about this doctrine? And what do you think about it?

Thank you.

Micah

1/7/2021 09:55:59 am

I talk about this a bit in some of the firesides as well as my papers The Church of the Firstborn and The Second Chance Theory.

Parents can obtain blessings which include the promise of their children in the celestial kingdom but members should be very careful how they teach this. There are many degrees in the celestial kingdom and the highest degree, or exaltation, is not promised to such.

Kristopher (Nips Topher)

2/1/2021 09:20:53 pm

This is actually one of the points I came here to discuss. I did like how you compared this to the return of the prodigal son and that agency is still in force here, i.e. we would not be able to force them to come up into the Celestial. I understand that there are different degrees in the Celestial kingdom, but even if one were to make the lowest glory don’t they have the opportunity to progress? It may be harder and take longer but I have always understood that you can progress up the degrees in the Celestial as long as you made it there?

Micah

5/3/2021 07:25:07 am

When you are resurrected, you are resurrected into the body of your glory. Those that obtain the highest degree of the celestial kingdom have different bodies than those who obtain the other degrees of the celestial kingdom. This is why the Savior taught (about Elder Talmage later expounded upon) "they are neither given nor taken in marriage after the resurrection- all matters of sealing and marriage has to be taken care of before the resurrection." And since you have to be married or sealed in order to obtain the highest degree of the celestial kingdom, there is no progression in the celestial kingdom after the resurrection.

Charles

1/4/2021 03:20:22 pm

Hi Micah,

I came across a video of the Elder Uchtdorf claiming the 15 will be getting the vaccine as soon as they are made available. I am wondering since it didn't come from the prophet directly since he holds all the keys, if you would consider this wise counsel or not still?

I am seeking my own personal revelation at this time. However, I am curious as a man of doctrine how you would answer this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-IMgSZwx64

Micah

1/7/2021 10:02:44 am

First and foremost, this is a case of an apostle not being perfect. This question should not have been answered, let alone answered in the way that is was. Answering hypotheticals will always get you in trouble. Elder Uchtdorf said "when the vaccine comes...I'm sure that we will take it." He is not the prophet and thus cannot say this and should not say this. He should say "when we get to that point in time we will seek the Lord's counsel and we will follow the direction of our modern prophet with regard to church policy. Each of us will have to decide for ourselves if no such church policy is made." When we "get a vaccine" as Elder Uchtdorf said, who's to say that the prophet won't receive revelation at that moment one way or another? There are a lot of things that are "wisdom" and then there are some things that are "commandments" and then there are flat out "mispeak/mistakes". I would chalk this up to a mistake. Answering hypotheticals is a trap.

Tamra

1/4/2021 06:27:57 pm

Thank you. Please continue with these even if their are conflicting opinions. We need it. Christ is coming soon, we need to learn all we can. I am not saying I agree with all of it, but he's to 98%. You are doing a Great service.

Aubrey

1/5/2021 09:23:42 pm

Hi Micah and Ashley!

FIrst, I want to say a very heartfelt thank you! The papers that you have produced have been such a help to my husband and me as we are seeking to Hear Him.

I have been reading in JS Matthew and thinking about the abomination of desolation. I would be interested in your take on it. The temples closed with COVID, but they are now sort of back open, so I'm wondering if this is what was meant? Or is the abomination yet to come?

Also, I had a strong prompting to study Joseph Smith several months ago, and love all your work to promote the truth of the doctrine surrounding him. I love that the spirit will speak to all of us and encourage us in the way we should go! I wish there was more deep doctrine taught in church.

Thanks again!

Micah

1/16/2021 04:07:47 pm

From the Bible Dictionary:
“Abomination of desolation
Daniel spoke prophetically of a day when there would be “the abomination that maketh desolate” (Dan. 11:31; 12:11), and the phrase was recoined in New Testament times to say “the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet” (Matt. 24:15).
Conditions of desolation, born of abomination and wickedness, were to occur twice in fulfillment of Daniel’s words. The first was to be when the Roman legions under Titus, in A.D. 70, laid siege to Jerusalem (Matt. 24:15; JS—M 1:12).
Speaking of the last days, of the days following the Restoration of the gospel and its declaration “for a witness unto all nations,” our Lord said: “And again shall the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, be fulfilled” (JS—M 1:31–32). That is, Jerusalem again will be under siege.”
END QUOTE

In a strictly literal sense there are only two abominations of desolations, one has already occurred in 70AD and the second will occur directly before the events at the Mount of Olives. Understanding that events occurring in the 6th seal will have similar events mirrored in the 7th seal, one could extrapolate that a similar event will occur here. This series of events coincides perfectly with the Assyrian’s yoke being broken, his anger, influence and frustration growing “even to the neck” of New Jerusalem at which point the Lord will appear (the Anointing) and fight our battles for us, which is very similar to how the events in Old Jerusalem will play out.

So the shutting down of the temples ie. the solemn feasts and assemblies, will be similar to the abomination of desolation ie. the Anti-Christ and the Old Jerusalem but they aren’t the same thing.

Braden Dunford

1/6/2021 04:57:07 pm

Micah,
Your work has brought me so much peace in these days. I’m messaging you on the day that capital hill was stormed. I know this day was planed by the trump campaign for a while and could have easily been hijacked. My question to you however, based on what happened with the Democrats controlling house, senate, and president do you foresee a quick change of American government/policy to take away freedoms where this very well could be year one of the 7 years of tribulations? I have watched/read a lot of your papers but I have recently been feeling like the stone cut from the mountain is coming towards the bottom of the mountain and it goes faster the lower it gets, meaning last day time lines happen quicker than the timeline did previously. Do you feel like the stone is almost at the bottom of the mountain?

Micah

1/16/2021 04:13:05 pm

Understanding that what takes place in the 6th seal mirrors greatly what occurs during the 7th seal, we can extrapolate that the Assyrian will most likely have no longer than 3.5 years of “enslaving” us. The 10 tribes return 2+ years into the famine which means we will see the Assyrian at least 18 months before the famine starts. From October conference to this election I believe we very well have witnessed a literal fulfillment to both A. the warning and B. the Assyrian coming to power.

Jake

1/6/2021 07:47:26 pm

I just watched your video on weakness vs rebellion. What is your opinion on rated R movies or TVMA TV shows? Tithing was also mentioned. What is a full tithe? Gross pay, net pay or increase? Define increase.

Micah

1/16/2021 04:25:34 pm

We first have to understand the difference between “wisdom” and “commandments”. We have a commandment to be pure and chaste etc etc which would mean certain PG13 movies would be against the commandment. We have wisdom that avoiding R rated movies would be a solid suggestion. That is wisdom, that is not a commandment, the rating systems all over the world are totally different. If you went to a movie that you knew had a lot of things in it you shouldn’t be watching (regardless of the rating) that would be a sin of rebellion.

Personal Finances for Self Reliance Course Manual:

“The law of tithing is simple,” taught President James E. Faust of the First Presidency. “We pay one-tenth of our individual increase annually. Increase has been interpreted by the First Presidency to mean income. What amounts to 10 percent of our individual income is between each of us and our Maker. . . . As a convert in Korea once said: ‘With tithing, it doesn’t matter whether you are rich or poor. . . . If you make lots of money, you pay 10 percent. If you make very little, you still pay 10 percent’” (“Opening the Windows of Heaven,” Ensign, Nov. 1998, 59).

Not paying your tithing is a sin of rebellion.

camille clark

1/7/2021 04:22:47 pm

I was sent a copy of President Benson's talk "Trust Not in the Arm of Flesh". This was supposedly given in 1967. I tried to find it on the Church's website but could not find it. The Church only lists conference talks from 1979 and on. Do you know if there is a reason for this? Have you read this talk?

Micah

1/16/2021 04:29:07 pm

I'm not sure why they only post from 1979 on.

I'll read the talk!

Chelsey Murray

1/7/2021 09:46:46 pm

Hey Micah,

I just wanted to toss in a comment about the marshmallow test you mentioned recently. I remember learning about this social experiment many years ago and while interesting it does have one major confounding factor. The test was I think originally designed to determine around what age a child develops the ability of delayed gratification, about 4 or 5, if I remember correctly. While it could be used as predictor of intelligence the test is only valid if the child trusts the person to give them the second marshmallow. Especially if the child comes from lower socioeconomic means or has been lied to by adults in the past. The child may take the first marshmallow simply because they might not believe the person making the offer is going to follow through with their promise.

David S.

1/9/2021 04:59:17 am

The first thing I want to get off my chest is that you sound exactly like my math teacher from pathways connect about 2 years ago. Are you?

About two weeks ago I emailed my bishop concerning my views about wearing masks in general but particularly at church. I arrived at the conclusion that the wearing of face coverings does several things.

1- it dehumanizes us
2- it makes us fearful of one another
3- it makes us distrustful of one another
4- the anonymity it provides makes it easier to be cruel to one another
5- whether intended or not, covering the face is a form of deception as it conceals truth from our interpersonal communication by concealing macro and micro facial expressions

All five of these points are contrary to Christ's doctrine and can thus be labeled anti- Christ and are therfore in my opinion, the work of the devil.

I told my bishop that I'd rather not do the work of the devil at church and yet he invited me to do so anyway. What are your thoughts on this matter?

Micah

1/16/2021 04:43:09 pm

I‘ve tutored chemistry and calculus in university but never with pathways connect!

My thoughts are that killing all the men, women and children of a village even after they have surrendered might be perceived as “evil” yet the Lord commanded Israel to do it, and the failing to do so proved catastrophic. The Book of Mormon would have a vastly different intro if Nephi didn’t kill an innocent man passed out on the street, steal his possessions, lie about who he was, steal more of that man’s possessions etc. If you follow the keys you will be justified. If you go your own path you have no promise. I can’t count the number of times I KNOW my priesthood leaders were wrong yet I am the one who sins if I don’t follow their commands. Keys are crucial in that understanding, if the individual has no keys it is an entirely different story.

Daniel

1/9/2021 11:11:02 am

Hi English Family!

Micah made a comment recently about church members having a fascination about near death experiences (NDEs). I think the reason may be that such church members aren’t doing the spiritually difficult work of searching the scriptures and, instead, find titillating details from other sources where the excitement becomes a substitute for the Spirit. It’s like getting a sugar high and the sugar is not good for you. Your thoughts?

I am thinking that Satan made the world one big distraction. He knows about our physical, intellectual, and spiritual desires, and, therefore, how to manipulate those who are not constantly seeking the companionship of the Holy Ghost.

-Daniel

Micah

1/16/2021 04:47:03 pm

I completely agree!

Jennifer Fletcher

1/11/2021 11:27:44 am

Hi Micah,

I first want to say thank you to you and your wife for the work you guys are doing here and on your YouTube. Finding your channel was literally like finding a spring in a desert for me.

I know this will probably seem juvenile, but I have never in my life studied my scriptures topically, so this is all very new to me. I decided to start with that quote from President Kimball I think, where he says to study JS Mathew and then some sections from D&C. Well I'm still sitting through Matthew 24 but I already have a question! I've ended up in D&C 87 after a footnote search of vs. 29 reference to "famine". After reading this section twice and doing a quick Google search as to whether Great Britain helped the South in the Civil War, I'm now left wondering if this section is actually talking about the Civil War?? Maybe partially? It is very specific about the starting place being South Carolina...but the rest of the verses are just not adding up for me. I'd love some insight here if you have anything to offer...like I said, super new to this and it's entirely possible I'm way off base, so no worries if I just need a little bit of redirection!

Thank you again!
Jen

Micah

1/16/2021 05:03:56 pm

That first part absolutely has to do with the Civil War in America but the rest does not. Halfway through verse 3 "Great Britain will call upon other nations...then war will be poured out upon all nations"- that's WWI and WW2. Verse 4 deals with our day, slaves could mean a number of things, considering when this was written it could simply mean "African Americans" in our day or any number of people "enslaved" (think debt) who marshal for civil war. Verses 5 and 6 are references to the returned 10 tribes as well as all the things highlighted in green that I mention often (Understanding Revelation 6 and 7, Half Hour of Silence, President Nelson's recent Liahona message etc) which is a future event. Verse 4 is where we are right now. Brother Hyrum Andrus has a couple lectures where he gives his thoughts on these verses.

Mo Hyde

1/12/2021 10:36:52 am

Hey Micah, I am loving the firesides even though I rarely get to watch them live and participate. Based on my interpretation, you & Blake both agree that we are dealing with the desolating sickness & the scourge of the Assyrian now. You also both agree that we are in that 18 month period prior to the famines, pestilences, etc. My question is, does the persecution to the saints, the testing the testimonies of the saints, etc. happen during this 18 month period or does it happen with the famines, pestilences, etc.?

My other question is do you believe (based on quotes from those with keys) that there will be a large earthquake here in Utah before the great earthquake that will open the way for the lost tribes to return? I hear lots of people talking of that but I haven't ever seen legit quotes.

Thanks again!

Micah

1/16/2021 05:08:53 pm

The testing for those who will go to New Jerusalem occurs during the 18 months, the rest of the Saints, their testing continues into the famine. See Abinadi: A Type of Things to Come. Alma's group left earlier and went through less problems.

There's going to be earthquakes everywhere, then a large earthquake (10 tribes) and then an even larger earthquake (Mount of Olives). We know for sure the Mount of Olives earthquake will affect Salt Lake City but as far as other earthquakes? Don't know.

Daniel

1/17/2021 11:54:13 am

What do you think will trigger the persecution? Polygamy?

Also, what do you think the criteria will be to be asked to go to the New Jerusalem? A temple recommend and a year's supply of food?

Lastly, what reference(s) do you have for the earthquake(s) in Utah?

Lastly, lastly, what will happen to local leadership (stake president, bishops) after Adam-ondi-Ahman? Will that dissolve and we will then be operating only in family units while we endure the persecution and/or famine?

Thanks,
Daniel

Micah

1/29/2021 09:41:33 am

Daniel,
The persecution against Christians has already started. If you believe in a traditional family you are already on the chopping block. The way things are looking freedom of religion and taking a stance on it could cause problems. Obviously things like plural marriage would also set people off.

See my paper The Parable of the Ten Virgins.

I answered the earthquake question above, for references see my papers Half Hour of Silence and Understanding Revelation Chapters 6 and 7.

We are not sure of timing on Adam-ondi-ahman events as points of reference are sparse or non-existent. We simply know there will be more than one and what will happen at some of them. What you asked is speculated by some, it could happen that way.

Mo Hyde link

1/12/2021 01:15:46 pm

Have you seen this video? To me it's a plausible explanation of how the Assyrian could scourge us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVuA98P4aA8&feature=emb_logo

Micah

1/16/2021 05:11:40 pm

Yes, tropicalflower actually sent this to me. I watched the whole thing and it seems like a very plausible way for the Assyrian to "rob the nest".

James C MacLean

1/21/2021 06:24:50 am

Yes... this video is a good summation of all the scams, its amazing how God still wants us to render unto Cesar that which is Cesar's though, to suffer ourselves to be brought into slavery by our political leaders, for the sake of more opportunity to share the restored Gospel of Jesus Christ.

At some point, the wicked populace will became irritated enough by the wicked bankers that they will rise up and slay them... except this time, the trickery is so incredible that it seems that will not happen, and the Lord will deal with this by the return of the lost tribes, acts of Nature, and pillars of fire from heaven for those who have made covenants not to spill the blood of men...

Josh

1/18/2021 04:01:17 pm

Just a little confused--

I thought that the sign of the son of man was supposedly the city of Enoch coming down. I believe you say that the sign of the son of man will occur at the end of the 6th deal (if I am not mistaken.)
However, I also thought that you said at one time that the city of Enoch returning to the earth would accompany the lord at the great and dreadful day.
Not sure which one is correct, and I can’t find where you had spoken about it.

Thanks

Micah

1/29/2021 09:45:53 am

See my papers The New Jerusalem, Zion, City of Holiness; Understanding Revelation Chapter 6 and 7; 1/2 Hour of Silence and my paper Macro Last Day Timeline Part IV (when it comes out).

Noelle Ray

1/19/2021 10:47:35 am

This is a comment by someone in my Facebook group. He feels there is a difference between The TIME of the Gentiles and the FULNESS of the Gentiles. What do you think?

When Moroni came to Joseph in 1823 told him that the fulness of the Gentiles was soon to come in (JSH 1:41)
In the scriptures are two phrases that are absolutely crucial to understand, one is what is called the “times of the Gentiles” and the “fullness of the Gentiles” which are two different concepts.
THE TIMES OF THE GENTILES
The “times of the Gentiles” are the latter days. Some people have mentioned, because of Hyrum Andrus, that the times of the Gentiles were fulfilled in 1948. That statement is wrong, he was referring to Luke 21:24, however he failed to mention the Prophet Joseph Smith translation of that verse version, we need to use the inspired version!
25 And he answered them, and said, In the generation in which the times of the Gentiles shall be fulfilled, there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations with perplexity, like the sea and the waves roaring. The earth also shall be troubled, and the waters of the great deep;
26 Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth. For the powers of heaven shall be shaken. (JST Like 21:25-26)
The times of the Gentiles begin when they received the Gospel. This also includes 1620 when “the Gentiles coming out of captivity” to the promised land (1 Nephi 13:12)
Verily I say unto you, this generation, the generation when the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled, shall not pass away till all be fulfilled. (JST Luke 21:32)
The time of the Gentiles are the latter-days:
But, behold, in the last days, or in the days of the Gentiles (2 Nephi 27:1)
The scriptures are clear in respect to this, the Generation when the times of the Gentiles shall be fulfilled, that Generation won’t pass away until everything shall be fulfilled.
More verses:
28 And when the times of the Gentiles is come in, a light shall break forth among them that sit in darkness, and it shall be the fulness of my gospel;
29 But they receive it not; for they perceive not the light, and they turn their hearts from me because of the precepts of men.
30 And in that generation shall the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
31 And there shall be men standing in that generation, that shall not pass until they shall see an overflowing scourge; for a desolating sickness shall cover the land. (D&C 45:28-31)
That Generation when “the times of the Gentiles shall come in” or fulfilled, will receive again the fulness of my gospel.
The fulness of the Gospel is in the Book of Mormon:
And again, the elders, priests and teachers of this church shall teach the principles of my gospel, which are in the Bible and the Book of Mormon, in the which is the fulness of the gospel. (D&C 34:12)
Which contains a record of a fallen people, and the fulness of the gospel of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles and to the Jews also; (D&C 19:9)
… and with Moroni, whom I have sent unto you to reveal the Book of Mormon, containing the fulness of my everlasting gospel, (D&C 27:5)
That light that shall break forth is God’s end-time servant, and he will bring the fullness of the Gospel as a latter day event, which implied another restoration of what is been lost because the changes since the beginning of the restoration and additional knowledge, and it can also mean the other records that haven’t been translated
The plates of Brass 1 Nephi 5:18
The large plates of Nephi (3 Nephi 26:7-11)
The sealed portion of the Book of Mormon (Ether 4:5-6)
The Record of John (D&C 93:15-16)
Why we haven’t received greater knowledge of the sealed portion of the Book of Mormon:
For the Lord said unto me: They shall not go forth unto the Gentiles until the day that they shall repent of their iniquity, and become clean before the Lord. (Ether 4:6)
We are going to enter that transition period where the times of the Gentiles are going to be fulfilled and the Gospel will go to the House of Israel.
10 And thus commandeth the Father that I should say unto you: At that day when the Gentiles shall sin against my gospel, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, and shall be lifted up in the pride of their hearts above all nations, and above all the people of the whole earth, and shall be filled with all manner of lyings, and of deceits, and of mischiefs, and all manner of hypocrisy, and murders, and priestcrafts, and whoredoms, and of secret abominations; and if they shall do all those things, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, behold, saith the Father, I will bring the fulness of my gospel from among them.
11 And then will I remember my covenant which I have made unto my people, O house of Israel, and I will bring my gospel unto them. (3 Nephi 16:11-10)
This refers to the members of the Church, we

James C MacLean

1/21/2021 05:45:58 am

Hello brother! I just listened to your latest video about the testy testy test.

So, in the context of considering the Old Testament covenants (law of Justice) and the New Testament covenants (law of mercy) please consider the following:

Moses was at liberty, in the Old testament, in a unique way, to be inspired of God to use the sword as a means of correction, through the servants of Levi.(holy butcher calling) Some of the rebellious children of Israel were butchered directly by the hand of Gods servants. But then, around the meridian of time, Jesus came to fulfill the law of Moses.

The command to directly butcher in vengance and correction and even for sacrificial purposes were all amended and rescinded through Jesus Christ.

All vengence became Christs, and only the most vital core essence of the sacrifice was to remain (a broken heart and contrite spirit) once His Holy sacrifice(Atonement) and resurrection had been fulfilled; I believe that is when His teachings (especially the ones on the sermon on the mount) came into full force.

Turning the other cheek in dealing with violence became Gods way, and letting God fight our battles for us through supernatural means and prayers of faith became the way to do physical battle, and bring about physical correction.

In light of those statements, I then propose this point of view:

You ask what the difference is between the golden calf and the brass serpent... and of course you know that the Golden calf was constructed in a spirit of disobedience and not being able to wait on the Lord and giving into the desires of the flesh, and the brass serpent is the symbol of Christ crucifying or defeating and consuming death/illness/pain on the cross.

In the first instance with the golden calf, the old Testament way of dealing with sin was on display.

In the second instance with the brass serpent on the pole, that was a type of the New Testament way of dealing with sin on display.

I'm assuming that the production of this video was inspired because of President Nelsons public reception of the vaccine?
What do you think of this take on it?:

President Nelson is essentially leading the saints, and all people of the earth, to receive this modern bite of the flying fiery serpent; (the vaccine) Its going to slay many of the wicked.
Also, many that are not so wicked will be sent to the spirit world.
The righteous will also be smitten by this poison. Like in the Old testament story, Jesus is still the way to heal from this vaccine, and righteous who have faith enough to be empowered through the Priesthood to heal or be healed shall be healed!

And of course, those who are healed shall be guided on to do more in the building up of Zion and the New Jerusalem, and seeing the astounding miracles that shall accompany the return of the Lost tribes!

On a slightly related note, it seems that members of the lost tribes, because they do not have access to the fullness of the Gospel of Christ, and perhaps only have widely distributed access to the Aaronic/Levitical Priesthood only, that they will be able to play more the role of the Holy butcher than Ephraim/Manasseh is called to play. They will come with their hovering laser tanks and laser blasting Aircraft to crush the Assyrian. Where, those who have the fullness of Gods covenants will first seek to share the Gospel of Christ with our enemies, and if they reject it then we shall be relying on pillars of fire and weather to crush our enemies through the prayer of faith... more in the fashion of Enoch.

Wow this is a blessing to get to consider these things nay? Yea!

tropicalflower

1/21/2021 06:13:12 pm

I just watched your video of the brass serpent. The prophet has asked for 2 worldwide fasts for covid. Do you think this vaccine was the answer for these fasts? Do you think this vaccine is a brass serpent that the prophet is asking us to look at with his last post?

Micah

1/29/2021 09:52:32 am

I believe that anything a prophet tells us to do is the brass serpent!

tropicalflower

1/22/2021 08:20:05 pm

Where are the places that talk about the great earthquake that brings all the continents together? Is this earthquake the one that happens when Jesus puts His foot on the Mount of Olives?

Micah

1/29/2021 09:53:57 am

Yes, the big earthquake that brings all the continents together is the one that happens when Jesus puts His foot on the Mount of Olives. I'll be going over it in my Macro Last Day Timeline Part IV

Jim L

1/24/2021 03:07:37 pm

Hi Micah,
I have truly enjoyed your insight from the very first video I listened to. I was doing some research on the New Jerusalem and I came accross Elder Neal Maxwell’s talk in the December 1978 Ensign titled: The Doctrine and Covenants:
The Voice of the Lord

I would like your thoughts on this. “We see only the tips of other truths, such as the one revealing that the Church, the army of the Lord, will become “very great,” in a day when others will acknowledge whose the Church is and will even ask to live under Zion’s laws. (See D&C 105:31, 32.) The Lord permitted his prophet, John Taylor, to elaborate on this last verse in 1879:
“Those who will not take up their sword to fight against their neighbor must needs flee to Zion for safety. And they will come, saying, we do not know anything of the principles of your religion, but we perceive that you are an honest community; you administer justice and righteousness, and we want to live with you and receive the protection of your laws, but as for your religion we will talk about that some other time. Will we protect such people? Yes, all honorable men. When the people shall have torn to shreds the Constitution of the United States, the Elders of Israel will be found holding it up to the nations of the earth and proclaiming liberty and equal rights to all men, and extending the hand of fellowship to the oppressed of all nations. This is part of the programme, and as long as we do what is right and fear God he will help us and stand by us under all circumstances.” (Deseret News Weekly, 28 Jan. 1880, 28:818; see also D&C 45:68–69.)”

Thanks for all your and your families time and energy you give so freely.
Jim L

Micah

1/29/2021 09:56:47 am

Thanks for sharing. Also note that this is the time period between the New Jerusalem and the Great and Dreadful Day.

Adam m

1/25/2021 09:00:37 am

Can we tell where in the macro timeline mass transportation and trade will be interrupted? You often mention the redemption of Zion be done by people marching back to Missouri. Would that mean that transportation is interrupted before redemption of Zion?

Micah

1/29/2021 10:05:39 am

It's unclear how people will be moving from Utah to Jackson County. I say "marching" because that is what those who prophesied of it described it as. Armies march and they have tanks, marching is more of a military term versus a mode of transportation term. I'm assuming you are referencing the events in 3 Nephi 21:14+? Based off of where it appears in the chapter I would say that it is sometime after the return of Joseph Smith and in conjunction with the redemption of Zion. On the Macro Last Day Timeline Part III as well as Understanding Revelation Chapters 6 and 7 and 1/2 Hour of Silence it is the "green" stuff.

Daniel

1/25/2021 09:38:06 am

I am going through your Isaiah papers again and found this statement of yours: "Isaiah Chapter 11 footnote for 'a rod' takes you to Joseph Smith History 1:40 which states that Moroni 'quoted the 11th chapter of Isaiah, saying it was about to be fulfilled.'" Actually, the Chapter 11 footnote that takes you to JSH 1:40 is for "that day", which is in verse 10. Not sure if that makes a difference, but there you go.

Best,
Daniel

Micah

1/25/2021 10:16:46 am

I changed it to make it more clear:

In Isaiah Chapter 11 verses one and ten, the verses discussing the rod and root of Jesse, is found a footnote for Joseph Smith History 1:40 (which is found in both verses) which states that Moroni “quoted the 11th chapter of Isaiah [to Joseph Smith], saying it was about to be fulfilled.”

Micah

1/25/2021 10:18:05 am

That was actually in my Joseph Smith to Return paper, in case people are looking for it.

Gabriel

1/27/2021 12:03:15 pm

Micah,

I wanted to get your thoughts on my following observations of the scriptures with two separate observations.

The first pertains to the sign of the woman fleeing into the wilderness in Rev. 12:5 for 1,260 years.

The second pertains to the three stages of a Zion-like society in America between 3 Nephi 11 through 4 Nephi.

The First Observation

Brief summary: the BOM shows a general 1,260 year period between the downfall of the Church and the first groanings of the beginning of the restoration of the Kingdom of God on the earth.

1 Nephi 11 - Nephi sees the birth of the Savior. The ministry of the 12. Likeness of things on the earth to heaven: Rev. 12:1, 2, 3.

1 Nephi 12 - Nephi sees the ministry of the 12, and the Kingdom of God established in the Americas. Then he sees their downfall. This is expounded upon in 4 Nephi. In 4 Nephi we see the downfall start in v.20 (194 AD), v. 24 (201 AD) things in common lost, v.27-34 (210 AD) political power and attempts to kill the 12 occur, the Kingdom of God is lost (Rev. 12:5). v.35 (231 AD) a great division among the people. v.40 (244 AD) the wicked were much more numerous. In Mormon chapter 1 we learn the 3 Nephites were removed from the earth, and the Apostolic keys in 326 AD. So from about 194 AD to 326 AD, a 132 year period, you go from Zion, to the complete loss of the keys on the earth. The darkness sets in.

1 Nephi 13 - Nephi sees the formation of the Great and Abominable Church. Darkness is over the earth from v. 1 to 11. The first ray of light where things start to reset is mentioned in v. 12 with Christopher Columbus and the discover of the New World by the old. This is the BOM's first mention the start of a chain of events that will eventually grow until the Gospel is restored and the Kingdom of God is established in political and ecclesiastical authority.

From the loss of kingdom between 210 AD through 326 AD, forward 1,260 years, you get to 1470 through 1586. Or you could go from Moroni's additions to the BOM and the keys of the BOM he held ceasing in 421AD. 1,260 years from that point is 1681. Between the loss of the Kingdom, and the the church fleeing into the wilderness, and then starting its return in the colonization of the new world between 1492 through the 1600's and beyond, you have about a 1,260 year gap. If you go forward 1,260 years from one specific date mentioned in 4 Nephi 1:35 which is in 231 AD, you arrive at 1491 AD. The Spirit had to come upon Christopher Columbus before he arrived in the Americas in 1492.

To me, this gap helps explain why Joseph Smith translated Rev. 12:05 from saying 'days' to 'years'.

If you take Rev. 12:1-5 as a likeness of things on the earth then you have:

The woman (church) is with child (kingdom of God i.e. Jesus Christ, and political and ecclesiastical authority of the church on earth) for the normal gestation of a human baby. 37 weeks (259 days) to 41 weeks (287 days). If days = years in the JST, this could mean the Kingdom of God was on the Earth from the birth of Christ, until 259 AD or 287 AD. This coincides with the downfall of the Zion-like people in 4 Nephi. Or the Kingdom of God (the child) goes into the wilderness for 1,260 years. This gets us to 1519 AD through 1547 AD. I don't get tied down with specific dates as much as I am impressed with a general period of 1,260 years from the downfall, to the initial starting of events that culminated in the restoration.

Then you get to Rev. 12:6 through 8, the war in heaven, then 9 through 11 when Satan is cast down. This has been normally interpreted as the premortal war in heaven. However, if as Joseph Smith said, that the Book of Revelation pertains to future events (past 100 AD), then this interpretation would not be entirely correct. Could the casting down of Satan be likeness of the casting down of the Assyrian mentioned in Isaiah 14?

Then it seems the events of Rev. 12:6-17 might be 6th seal events?

Your thoughts? Sorry for my ramblings.

The Second Observation

The people on the American continent who came to know Christ and his gospel occurred in three general divisions.

The first group of people comprised 2,500 souls (3 Ne. 17:25). Between 3 Nephi 11 and 3 Nephi 18, these individuals each got to touch the Savior. They had angels minister to them. They received the new law directly from Jesus. The Savior personally blessed their children and healed their sick. Then he held a sacrament service with them. He called 12 apostles.

The second group of people were gathered the day after the visit to the first people. The first group went out and told everyone that Jesus was going to come the next day (3 Ne. 19:1-3). The second group was so large they were divided into twelve groups (19:5). The 12 taught exactly what Jesus taught the previous day to the second group (19:8). The second group got to see the Savior, but they did not get to have the same level of experience as the first group. They were able to hear incredible instructio

Gabriel

1/29/2021 11:32:54 am

Micah:

My second observation comment was cut short probably because what I wrote was too long. Here it is:

The Second Observation
The people on the American continent who came to know Christ and his gospel occurred in three general divisions. The first group of people comprised 2,500 souls (3 Ne. 17:25). Between 3 Nephi 11 and 3 Nephi 18, these individuals each got to touch the Savior. They had angels minister to them. They received the new law directly from Jesus. The Savior personally blessed their children and healed their sick. Then he held a sacrament service with them. He called 12 apostles.
The second group of people were gathered the day after the visit to the first people. The first group went out and told everyone that Jesus was going to come the next day (3 Ne. 19:1-3). The second group was so large they were divided into twelve groups (19:5). The 12 taught exactly what Jesus taught the previous day to the second group (19:8). The second group got to see the Savior, but they did not get to have the same level of experience as the first group. They were able to hear incredible instruction from the Savior. The Savior stayed with them three days (26:13) and healed the sick and ministered to the children (26:13, 14, 15).
The third group comprised everyone else in the area. All of the people not present or part of groups one and two were eventually converted within two years (4 Ne. 1:2). It took two years for groups one and two to convert everyone and a Zion-like society was established. The third group did not get to benefit from the Savior's personal ministry like groups one and two, but benefited the same from the labors of one and two.
What parallels do you see with the three groups and the following points?
The calling and ministry of the 144,000, the Lord's appearances to Adam-Ondi-Ahman, his Reign at Zion, and then to the Jews? Or the initial building of New Jerusalem, followed on later by other Latter-day Saints?

Thanks,

Gabriel

Daniel Ledesma

1/30/2021 04:38:51 pm

What do you think happens to part-member families and the New Jerusalem. I presume one must be baptized in order to be in that city. If that is the case, does that mean part-member families will not go there, at least right away? Instead, part-member families will likely be in King Limhi's group and will suffer longer before making it to Zion, the New Jerusalem?

Micah

3/17/2021 04:43:46 pm

Hey Daniel,
Yes I think you are correct in that thinking if you are referring to New Jerusalem in Jackson County. There will be a process of bringing the stakes of Zion in.

Kristopher (Nips Topher)

2/1/2021 10:44:48 pm

Micah,

I do want to start off by thanking you for all the time and effort you put into your papers. I know you are not doing it for thanks or to set yourself up as a light, so don’t let the thanks go to your head!

Have you heard of Mormon Chronicles? I came across this article and it has made me think some. I don’t buy into all of what it is saying but I wonder what your thoughts are on it? https://www.mormonchronicle.com/follow-the-living-prophet-and-excommunicate-joseph-smith-part-1/

I guess my second question is more of a statement that you could comment on or clear up... It seems like there is this excitement around plural marriage, whether negative or positive. Isaiah 4:1 “And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by they name, to take away our reproach.” Footnote for reproach is “the stigma of being unmarried and childless” so there may be some physical relationship there so that there might not be any childless women, but to me this verse makes it seem like there may be just mostly eternal sealings. I think it needs to be realized that the weird lady in the ward who was never married will need to be sealed to someone. The single mother of three+ also, along with the homely sisters. (There are plenty of homely brethren as well I understand) It just seems like there are some men, and women for that matter, that are thinking of this as the natural man not with an eternal perspective. I am not particularly looking forward to the time when this is practiced. I will most likely fight against personal revelation pointing me in this direction, not being able to trust in it, most likely thinking that it is just the natural man prompting me... When it does come to pass I am hoping that it is closer to what is said in Isaiah 4, that it will just be getting sealed but that they will go on their way to take care of themselves....

Micah

5/3/2021 07:38:16 am

A modern prophet is different than the prophet, seer and revelator of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Anybody who speaks under the spirit of prophecy is a prophet, but that does not give them keys. The president of the Church alive today is more important to us alive today than a prophet of a bygone age because that president of the Church alive, holding the keys, allows us the opportunity to access the ordinances of the gospel with the proper keys. A prophet's ability to prophesy CAN be more important to those in that day if the prophesy deals with those of that day (ie. it is relevant to that time period and generation). But if a prophet said "Jesus will be born in 400 years" the words of that prophet would be much more important to the people 400 years ago than today. The entire argument is blown apart with the presence of the Book of Mormon, the Book of Mormon which is canonized and accepted and sustained in the standard works. All of which was written by prophets who died long, long ago. In contrast, prophets and apostles have constantly reiterated the fact that even the modern prophet's voice doesn't hold as much weight as canonized scripture. Ergo, having a president holding all of the keys is more essential to our salvation than knowing Moses held keys thousands of years ago, but the words and prophecies of prophets are the words of Christ. And the words of Christ shall all be fulfilled "whether by mine own voice or the voice of my servants it is the same." The words of Christ don't diminish in value over time and they do not increase in value the newer they are.

Micah

5/3/2021 07:56:25 am

All very good points. The thing that we need to remember is that the celestial law is an upgrade to the law of Moses. The Lord knew that the Israelites were unable to live the celestial law so they were only given what they could bear. The law of Moses contained in it stipulations for plural marriage in great detail. When a man died the wife got handed to his brother for time and he was required to give her a son. So yes, there were physical things involved. As soon as the women bore a son the "married for time" was annulled. There was stipulations for widows going to next of kin to be taken care of etc etc. The only aspect of "plural marriage" that was given entirely to the discretion of the keys ("for when I the Lord shall command...") had to do with men who were already married pursuing other marriages like Jacob did. So, the parts of celestial marriage you are okay with is actually the law of Moses and what you are having a problem with is actual celestial marriage.
The law of Moses makes it impossible (near impossible) for women to pursue rich men and have multiple such women marry one such rich man. And the law of Moses also prevented men from obtaining riches with the explicit purpose being to attract multiple wives. The marriages were set up to help people financially (not to indulge materialism) and the sexual relations were entirely pragmatic and ended as soon as it reached its desired conclusion. Celestial marriage is in addition to this, but it requires a much more righteous people to live it. In theory, a righteous man could pursue multiple additional marriages entirely for altruistic means (ie. help somebody financially, help them have kids before their childbearing years are through) and women who may have trouble finding a righteous man may be granted opportunities in this life that they may otherwise be denied. The problem arises first when people attempted to live this higher law when they were commanded only to live the law of Moses. The second problem arises when men begin to be ambition and seek worldly wealth for the sole purpose to attract wives. And women lulled to materialism are no longer looking for righteous husbands but start looking for a man who will provide for them the most materialism. Many are quick to point out that this law lived improperly will lead to men and their lusts of the flesh but they ignore or don't recognize that the only way that is made possible is through women's lust of materialism. This is why Isaiah 3 humbles the women of their lust for materialism before plural marriage is reinstated.

Kelsie

2/2/2021 10:25:00 am

Hello Micah!

In your paper, Joseph Smith to Return, it says:

"The Book of Mormon Student manual clarifies:

3 Nephi 21:9–11. “My Servant”
A careful reading of 3 Nephi 21:9–11 suggests that the Lord was referring to the Prophet Joseph Smith when he said, “The life of my servant shall be in my hand” (v. 10; see also Isaiah 52:13–15, 3 Nephi 20:43–44)."

I cannot find this in the Book of Mormon Student Manual. Is this actually a quote from the manual or did I misunderstand?

Thanks!

Micah

2/2/2021 09:46:26 pm

Hi Kelsie,
Yes it is a direct quote from the 1989/1996 Book of Mormon Student Manual Religion 121 and 122 p.124

Jared

2/5/2021 03:59:11 pm

I hope my question isn't outrageous. I'm currently rereading through Jesus the Christ, and had some interesting thoughts/and questions. Here is the quote that I will ask about in chapter 7:"That Child to be born of Mary was begotten of Elohim, the Eternal Father, not in violation of natural law but in accordance with a higher manifestation thereof; and, the offspring from that association of supreme sanctity, celestial Sireship, and pure though mortal maternity, was of right to be called the “Son of the Highest.” In His nature would be combined the powers of Godhood with the capacity and possibilities of mortality; and this through the ordinary operation of the fundamental law of heredity, declared of God, demonstrated by science, and admitted by philosophy, that living beings shall propagate—after their kind. The Child Jesus was to inherit the physical, mental, and spiritual traits, tendencies, and powers that characterized His parents—one immortal and glorified—God, the other human—woman."

My intention is not to be blasphemous.
If God is the obvious father of Jesus, and Mary is the mother, wouldn't that make Mary and God married? And wouldn't sending a messenger (Gabriel) be similar to a plural marriage proposal i.e when Joseph Smith and others who entered into plural marriage when sent others to propose to prospective bride? In the text, what does overshadow mean to you? In my mind (I am willing to be wrong) means a similar instance to that of Joseph in the sacred grove, or Moses on Mount Sinai. Many have said that the holy ghost gave seed to Mary, but how would the holy ghost give physical genetic seed when it doesn't have a physical body? And how would it give God our fathers genetic DNA?

My next question is completely unrelated. With regards to the Assyrian, we know he is presently in the US not physically but in the culture etc. How will the 10 tribes break the yoke of Assyrian if he is not physically here? Where does he say he will physically be here and wouldn't that connotate a physical invasion?

Thanks for allowing me to ask my questions which seem or be ridiculous.

Micah

5/3/2021 08:07:59 am

A lot of what your question is is unrevealed so I can't comment on it. But the Joseph Smith Foundation wrote a paper on it entitled, "Explaining Polyandry" in which they discuss Mary and the Father's potential marriage. I would suggest reading their article, it is a subject I would rather not talk about over the internet.

It says at the time of the Assyrian and as the New Jerusalem is being built "those who will not take up their sword against their neighbor must needs flee to Zion" it does not say "take up the sword against the invader". To me this does imply a physical force/presence but it is not foreign in nature, it is of our own making. In D&C 87 when we get to the same points of reference it say "slaves shall rise against their masters who were marshaled and ready for war" once again doesn't sound like an invasion but rather subjugation, molestation of the laws of the land etc that eventually leads to civil unrest and eventually civil war. The yoke of the Assyrian is the slavery, is the people being denied freedoms such as the freedom to assemble and worship etc.

Jared

2/6/2021 12:06:40 am

More questions for Sundays fireside

First off,I love and appreciate your videos/papers. Thank you! I have a lot of questions come to mind as I have been rereading through Jesus the Christ, and The Saints books. I appreciate any answer you give me, even the speculation. Here's me list.

1.I have been trying to wake up my family members, but either they remain asleep, or have the philosophy of "all is well in Zion". Do you have any helpful ideas for waking them? How do you prepare them for difficult doctrines?

2.Do you think the 10 tribes will even speak our language? Return of language of Adam? If not, , then wouldn't building New Jerusalem be like build the tower of Babel?

3.If the Assyrian is here, will he gather an army (draft)? or can we expect an invasion? If there is not a physical Assyrian, then how would the 10 tribes will break the yoke of Assyrian?

4.For those that weren't able to enter into Plural Marriage because it wasn't practiced like among the Nephites, those of the generation of 1900s, or even those that died before the age of accountability, are they penalized and won't be able to enter (assuming they are dead or had died)?

5. How do you think the church will announce the return of the physical practice of plural marriage? Wouldn't that consume the whole time at conference? Do you think it would happen gradually like for those of the leadership of the church and slowly trickle down to the rest of the members like Joseph in Nauvoo and Utah? Would the church bring it too pass even though its against the law keeping in mind the 12th article of faith? Or do you think the church would bring it back in the eve of civil war/complete disarray?

6. Do you think that Plural Marriage would reform the courting traditions of our time?What would plural marriage courting even look like now days? How would one logistically practice plural marriage with regards to living space? Would it look more like sister wives reality tv show where each wife has their own home/apartment? or would all the wives liver under one roof? How did the pioneers in Utah do it?

7. How would one combat the carnal/worldly notion that Plural marriage favors the men over the women, and women appearing to be property and thereby sexist?

8. What is your opinion on UFOs and aliens and how they come into the grand scheme of things with regards to things like area 51, flying saucers, the skeletons being only 4ft tall etc. ?

9. Have you heard that the location where Sodom and Gomorrah is believed has high amounts of radiation? Could nuclear war be in connection with baptism by fire? Would Zion have a force field around it like in Star Wars I?

10. Would us going to Jackson county to build New Jerusalem return us to pioneer technology/times? Or would we build with current technologies? For the initial parties arriving there in Missouri, living in tents? Would there be enough supplies? Would the church already have materials ready to build? What would missionary work look like then? How much of Missouri does the church own?

Micah

5/3/2021 08:17:08 am

1. Somebody actually suggested a fireside recently going over this very subject. I think we will have to do it and we will get all of those answers in one location.

2. There are many things that would make this possible, the Spirit can give you the gift of tongues or interpretation of tongues. There will be angels there who have white stones who would also be able to help translate etc. I believe we also answered this in the fireside with Blake where we went over the ten tribes.
3. I answered this one on your other post
4. We are not given or taken in marriage after the resurrection but the temples prove that people are given and taken in marriage in death vicariously all the time. Opportunities won't be denied but when an individual is resurrected will be impacted.
5. The rebuke from the Lord is heavily centric on the neglect of members toward the widows, the poor and the fatherless. If we had been living the law of Moses, let alone plural marriage, these people would have been taken care of. Meaning, plural marriage would not be reinstated before these events. But Isaiah 3 explains a process of humbling that is specific to the restoration of plural marriage, that is humbling the daughters of Zion of their lust for materialism. See my other post in here going over that.

Micah

5/3/2021 08:31:03 am

6. I have no idea how courting practices would change. People in our culture look at those living in polygamist cultures and exclaim "oh that's so sad, they didn't marry for love" and women in those polygamist societies look at women in our society and say "what you have isn't love, it is jealousy and an ugly love". That was taken directly from a mini Youtube documentary on the subject. It will obviously change the courting practice and will change our understanding of what love really is. There is nothing written as per commandment pertaining to multiple wives and their living arrangements, meaning it was probably done at the discretion of the husband and the wives. My belief is that a new wife might "want her own house' up until the point in time that she realized that she had to clean the whole thing and was lonely.
7. I answered this question above. Men abusing the system for carnal lusts of the flesh is made possible only by women abusing the system for carnal lusts of materialism. The man who is attempting to enter into plural marriage entirely for carnal reasons won't attract many brides. So why do these women choose to many him? For his stuff. So men pursue materialism in an attempt to attract women who are willing to objectify themselves for stuff. And hello? Women and men are doing this today, they just don't get "married".
8. We know from revelation that the Lord does not allow even angels from other planets to administer to this earth. Meaning these "UFOs" have to be originally from this planet or are delusions/illusions created by demons.
9. Anything is possible, but if I am speculating I'm still trying to use the scriptures and it sure sounds like more "Mother Nature" and less man-made technology.
10. No. Yes. Possibly. We know that angels and men will be co-workers at that day, I would recommend reading John Taylor's dream as recorded by Wilford Woodruff. That might give us some clues as to how this will take place.

James C MacLean

2/6/2021 05:23:03 am

Hello bro. Michah!

Hey I just got done listening to your missionary training video from Jan 30th there, and wow! you have been blessed to be enabled to give such a useful presentation!

Thank you for making those teaching resources available... to address the learning methods most prevalent (kinesthetic and visual) Wow... that is a huge point.... people just don't get it if they don't get their bodies involved in the learning somehow... yes! Makes sense...

Most people are not Jesus freaks like you and me who learn just by listening hey? Ha! O how difficult it is not to project my own experience onto other people. True empathy is an awesome capacity to be trained up in; its seems vitally connected to the broken heart and contrite spirit which are the most awesomely difficult, and ancient sacrifices to give. Only with Christ is it possible.

Yes, I'm feeling a bit more enthused about missionary work again as a result of you presentation and resources. Gracias for the time you sacrifice to the cause of Christ.

Also, How blessed are you to assemble and co create all these videos and papers your presenting. All the people are very blessed to be able to consider them!

What an effort to compile and weave together all those quotes and points of view to give the most accurate potential time lines possible... as spoken by the Savior himself, and Isaiah, and others.

I'm glad to have been fortunate to get to consider on your offerings. I suppose I should check out some Hyrum Anders at some point as well?

Anyhow!

Also, you made some very interesting observations about Gods omniknowledge near the end of that missionary presentaiton. To consider whether God's forknowledge of the choices we will make is a negation of true agency is fundamental to consider!

To me, even if God knows we are going to fail, or succeed, does not take away from the learning of the individual who is the subject of the experience. Even when God knows exactly what is going to happen already, the person who experiences the success or failure does not know whats going to happen, and still learns from the choices that God knew they would make yes? Though, its interesting to consider how God seems to mention alternative plans should some fail, as you mentioned with King David and Joseph Smith jr. Yes, as you said though, and of course, nothing has been revealed as to how God actually does these things though. He is much greater than us all who are in the veil of tears.

Thanks for reverencing the name and label for those who are Christs Saints, even with all our shortcomings. Hailing and valuing the power of the names of God really will be so vital in enabling the coming together of the prophecies of the most dramatic times in all the history of this plan of salvation!

Blessings! Thanksgiving in Christ.

-bro James C M -

Micah

3/17/2021 04:47:06 pm

Hey James, you are very welcome. It's good to see people interested in missionary work, there's not enough of them!

Darin

2/7/2021 03:29:37 pm

Hey Micah,

I wanted to get your thoughts on what I’ve thought for a long time may be the most commonly recited yet most often misquoted and misunderstood verses in scripture by members of the church. D&C 121:34-36:

“Behold, there are many called, but few are chosen. And why are they not chosen?

The reason they are not chosen is NOT because their hearts are set upon the things of the world nor because they aspire to the honors of men. I wish members would quit teaching and quoting it that way. The reason they are not chosen is because they have not learned “this one lesson” (the two-fold lesson of verse 36).

Why haven’t they learned the lesson? The hearts set and the aspiration to honors of men is the answer there. Very important distinction.

I’ve also always understood the second half of verse 36 to say that the “principles of righteousness” are NOT enough to control or handle the powers of heaven. I believe, based on simple grammar, if they were enough, the word “cannot” would have been written “can” and the word “nor” would be replaced with “and”.

If my understanding is correct, then what more, beyond the principles of righteousness, would be required?

That’s the question that I’ve struggled a little more to answer but, depending on how broadly you define “principles of righteousness” I think the answer may have to do with things like keys, covenants, things that may extend beyond simple principles of righteousness. After all, we’re talking about being chosen, rights of the priesthood, and CONTROLLING THE POWERS OF HEAVEN. Wouldn’t that require something more than simply being righteous?

Thoughts?

Thank you in advance.

Micah

5/3/2021 08:40:40 am

I go over this in a number of my papers including the one I just published where we dissected President Nelson's priesthood April 2021 conference talk, What We Are Learning and Will Never Forget.
Comparing what you have said to the story of Jesus walking on water, the Savior says "many are called and few are chose, and why are they not chosen? Because they don't get in the boat". And what you are saying is "Many are called and few are chosen and why are they not chosen? Because they don't get in the boat. And because they never got in the boat they never learn to row until the 4th watch." You are frustrated because we don't focus on the second half, the rowing until the 4th watch, but the fact is that the overwhelming majority of members never got in the boat. 98% of the Church doesn't get in the boat, 1% rows until the 4th watch and 1% give up and park their boat on the shore. Personally I would rather try to attack that 98%, getting more people to get in the boat, vs teaching to the 1% who got in the boat but who refuse to row until the 4th watch.
The answer to your second question I went over in that same paper I listed above, the answer is attitude, sins of weakness vs sin of rebellion. Or as Moroni put it, if you give good gifts (ie."righteousness") but you do so with the wrong attitude it is counted unto you as evil and it would have been better for you to not have given the gift.

Daniel

2/9/2021 01:14:13 pm

I wonder how much my interest in the last day events and hope that the New Jerusalem is right around the corner is due to (a) the blood of Israel flowing in the my veins or (b) how much I like (or dislike) my job. I hope it is more (a) than (b)!

If you replace "job" with "family situation" or "current schooling," then you might appreciate that we may be desiring the last days for the wrong reasons. What problems do you see in the reasons for our interest/focus? I presume we would be more easily distracted/deceived if we are watching the events of the last days for the wrong reasons.

Micah

5/3/2021 09:07:59 am

I'm actually drafting a paper on this exact subject, I don't know if I want to publish it yet. Simply put though, "you can't feed people with empty shelves, you can't help support people with empty bank accounts, etc" That principle applies broadly, you can't give charity (items, not the attribute) from a position of weakness, that is simply theft with your unnecessary permission. Not only is seeking things for the wrong reasons potentially extremely dangerous but it is most certainly disqualifying.

tropicalflower

2/12/2021 07:18:11 pm

Do you plan on making videos explaining the other parables? I think I remember you saying that the parable of the prodigal son was related to that promise made to exalted parents that they should have their stray children back, but that after a period of paying for their sins these children would become servants in the celestial kingdom... Is that right? I thought that was so interesting. Not many people know that, I think.

Micah

3/17/2021 04:06:22 pm

Yes, I have plans on doing papers on more parables. To be frank, I'm surprised at how most parables are taught now (eg. talents=talents ???) Definitely in the works

2/19/2021 08:41:05 am

Hey Micah and Ashley, I just listened to Pres. Eyring's Apr. 2020 conference talk again and holy smokes!!!! So many statements smacked my soul with power of the Holy Ghost. I know you have tons and tons of items planned and prepared to already share but I would love to hear your interpretation of what you got out of this talk sometime.

God Bless!

Micah

3/17/2021 04:04:05 pm

I'll take a look at it and add it to the list!

Greg Fessia

2/20/2021 12:38:55 pm

I have a more fun and lighter thing to think about concerning the last days and the Millennium. Do you think that sports will continue to be played in the city of New Jerusalem and throughout eternity? Will we have teams and leagues?

Micah

3/17/2021 04:01:27 pm

Interesting thought, sports have always been a positive in my life, taking part in them. Who knows!

Gregory Fessia

2/21/2021 01:35:10 am

This is about the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel. If they have been living in a hollow earth or possibly in some other dimension completely disconnected from us, we would have absolutely no idea how their language(s) has changed and evolved because we have been separated from each other for the past 2,700 years. How are we supposed to provide them the gospel and perform necessary ordinances for their salvation and exaltation if we can't understand each other.

Micah

3/17/2021 03:57:47 pm

Hey Greg! We actually talked about this in our last fireside about the Lost Ten Tribes!

https://youtu.be/rtlGTNkPSo0

3/1/2021 06:54:06 pm

Micah,

I have really enjoyed your content. I'm working my way through the Isaiah series and love it. I just watched the 8-15-2020 video and was surprised not to see anything about the 6th seal earthquake. Do you think it has already happened? It seems like a future event to me.

Thanks

Micah

3/17/2021 04:00:22 pm

For my August 15 2020 video I was using Isaiah Chapters 1-14 for my template. Since Isaiah didn't mention an earthquake I didn't include it in that video. But yes, I think it is a future event. See my Understanding Revelation: Chapter 6 and 7

Micah

3/20/2021 03:19:45 pm

Regarding Emma:

I actually had a video about Emma sent to me by “Greentree”. The video is found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKqdXDR-7tw

And here is my response to the video:
1.The lady who made the video claims there is no factual proof for a lot of items but then goes on to say “Emma had her calling and election made sure”, which we would never know, but let’s think, what was she doing while that apparent calling and election happened? She was removed as RS president for fighting against the prophet and actively preaching that Joseph didn’t receive the revelation, but rather Brigham put him up to it- President Brigham Young going as far as to say that Emma even BURNED a copy of the revelation (D&C 132) “thinking it was the only copy”. That is what is required to pass a test? That is what is required to have one’s calling and election made sure? If that is the standard I’d already be having weekly dinners with the Savior. It’s utter bull crap. But fine, let’s assume she actually DID have her calling and election made sure…

2.“She didn’t commit the unpardonable sin…” Ummm? Does this lady even know what that means? It means “to shed innocent blood” after having one’s calling and election made sure… Does this mean you can’t “kill” anyone? Obviously not, because Nephi killed a man, Joseph Smith had a gun and shot someone the day Joseph was killed, etc. So actually killing someone isn’t “shedding innocent blood”. Alma taught in The Book of Mormon, “yea I had murdered many people, or in other words led many in the church out of the church”, he understood the severity of “killing someone spiritually”, and so did the sons of Mosiah, who feared what they had done so much that they decided to preach the gospel the remainder of their days to make atonement. Jesus preaching of those that “hurt the little ones spiritually in the church” said of such “it would be better if you had not been born, or had a stone put around your neck and you were cast into the sea”. But it doesn’t end there, she also had children… Joseph Smith himself said that “many of the early apostates were sons of perdition” (you can only become a son of perdition after having your calling and election made sure and then by the “shedding innocent blood”) because they didn’t just leave, they “murdered other people spiritually as well” and he also said that “the opposition caused against them actually got people killed”. You get where I am going with this…. I don’t believe Emma DID have her calling and election made sure, and to preach that means FAR WORSE things for Emma because She DID commit the unpardonable sin of “shedding innocent blood” in a multitude of ways, which would make her a son of perdition… I believe she never had her calling and election sure, but could still due to Joseph’s worthiness become an administering servant if she chooses to be. If she had her calling and election made sure she is a son of perdition.

3.“Staying in the church isn’t part of the covenant…” What the flip? When one has their calling and election made sure they can’t just leave the church, have sex with whoever they want and do whatever they want so long as they “don’t shed innocent blood”, shedding innocent blood just makes them a son of perdition! If staying in the church, if going west didn’t matter for Emma’s salvation either way, why would it matter for anyone? Why did Joseph plead with Emma directly before his death TO head west and raise his sons in the faith? Why? If it didn’t matter to her to keep her covenants than it doesn’t matter for anyone. It’s as simple as that. If she makes it we all make it. “God is not a respecter of persons”.

4.“retain the position beside Joseph…” doesn’t mean exaltation even in that, it could mean administering servant… Not the same thing, even if that was accurate, which it isn’t as blessings from the Lord always come in the form of a covenant with their fulfillment only coming from obedience, which she didn’t do, but even if we give her that one, once again, it doesn’t mean anything other than administering servant.

5.“Emma and Brigham enjoyed a fine relationship before…” Once again, what the holy flip? Flat out lies. Why was Emma forcefully removed as RS president? She was slandering not only Joseph, but Brigham specifically. Their relationship was horrible. She resented how much Joseph loved Brigham, she had trouble having children and viewed Brigham as “the son Joseph wanted”, even though they were the same age. This played

Micah

3/20/2021 03:22:49 pm

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out later in her life when she forced her children into starting their religion.

6.“She wanted to stay beside the grave…” no she didn’t… She wanted the wealth, which she took… It is the reason why 75% of the buildings in that area still belong to Emma even though they belonged to the Church, Brigham gave them all to her free of charge. She was sitting on the most wealth she had had since leaving her family. She immediately remarried. IMMEDIATELY. “But she wanted to be with the bones of her husband”? Don’t make me laugh! She “felt like she had the right to all the property” and she stole it. Period. And Brigham being the man he was, GAVE IT ALL TO HER. Even though the Saints were penniless and moving once again, he didn’t sell any of it to her.

7.“Under her hand the reorganized church was formed… she kept all of her covenants”- she literally said that in the same breath? Are the covenants we make today in the temple different than the covenants required at her hand then? Is God not the same yesterday, today, and forever? Yes. Thus, same covenants made in the same place. If I left the church and formed another church no one with a straight face would say “the Lord didn’t expect Micah to be perfect… under his hand Micah made a new church which led thousands if not millions away from the church… but Micah kept all of the covenants”. Once again, if one wants to argue that she didn’t break enough of the covenants to disqualify her, fine I guess, lets talk about that, but to argue what this lady is arguing is beyond the pale- that “Emma didn’t break any covenants doing what she did”. I thought the ONLY covenant you think matters was “cleaving unto Joseph and ONLY Joseph”, and you think she did that by immediately remarrying? Hahahaha… Wow…

8.“She endured to the end in admirable ways…” like seriously, I don’t even know what to say… Like, I seriously have no words…
Then she ends with a quote from Joseph professing his love for Emma like anyone doubts that?
Look, I’ve had the arguments and put forth cases with “the other side” on this one, and I believe the evidence is overwhelmingly skewed one direction; this lady didn’t even attempt the tired arguments, instead she just presented another reality. I don’t know what to say other than “yes, yes that was garbage”!

Micah

3/20/2021 03:24:11 pm

The question then arises, “wasn’t Emma chosen of the Lord?” and “what about Emma’s mental condition?”

Emma was absolutely “God’s pick for Joseph”, but “David was God’s pick for Israel” and “Oliver was God’s pick for dual president of the Church”… David lost his throne due to far less serious infractions and Oliver also lost his throne and position, once again also due to far less serious infractions… No one is questioning Emma’s calling- everyone should question Emma’s election, for “many are called, few are chosen” and if Emma/David/Oliver/etc. are the “ensamples for the chosen” I just don’t even…

Remember Joseph couldn’t continue translating also until he got Oliver, same concepts… All blessings are based on covenants and faithfulness- Emma was specifically commanded in D&C 132 “to receive and accept all those given to Joseph”, and to Emma’s dying breath she denied Joseph ever being married to anyone else other than herself- that is as clear cut breaking of covenant as you can possibly get.

I am not under the belief that God knows what we will do, only what we are capable of doing, and that the Lord has so many plans and back up plans (like Nephi’s small plates) that everything will work out regardless of who fails and succeeds. Emma was called, Emma had the potential, Emma was a tragedy just like David, Oliver, etc. And so are all of us, born in the covenant at THIS TIME PERIOD, who fail to live up to our callings and responsibilities! We are some of the best, and everyone that is lost is a tragedy!

Mental health obviously can be a factor, but if the Lord is giving the covenant, the Lord knows you are accountable, ergo the Lord gave Emma the covenant, the command, in D&C 132 and she received it, burned it, and denied it to her death. If someone is “mentally irresponsible” they shouldn’t be baptized or make covenants with the Lord like Emma did. Trials and tribulations alone aren’t ever enough to justify our rebellion, the story of Job is an entire book about that doctrine.

Micah

3/20/2021 03:26:09 pm

“But you shouldn’t judge her!”

I don’t have to judge her,

A) I know how the Lord will judge, for the Lord said “those who do not repent and die in their sins shall be cut off”
B) Those with the keys to judge Israel have already judged her.

“I hope you get judged the same way you judged Emma!” or “the same way you judged Emma will be the same way you are judged!”

A) We will all get judged according to the Lord’s standards so obviously I will be judged the same way Emma will, that’s exactly why we know she won’t reach exaltation because the Lord has already laid out the conditions and if Micah did what Emma did, he wouldn’t make it.
B) The keys of the priesthood judge me every time I sit down for a temple recommend. If they find me not worthy for the temple, I don’t qualify for the blessing of exaltation received in the temple. If four consecutive prophets (not apostles, prophets) judged me unworthy I’d be unworthy, no matter how many years in the past it transpired.

D&C 132:51–56. What Was Emma Commanded Not to Partake of?

Emma was given additional counsel from the Lord, including commandments to “receive all those that have been given to her husband” (D&C 132:52)… The Lord also gave her warnings against rejecting these commandments and promises for keeping them.
President Wilford Woodruff, who was closely associated with the Prophet Joseph Smith, said: “Emma Smith, the widow of the Prophet, is said to have maintained to her dying moments that her husband had nothing to do with the patriarchal order of marriage, but that it was Brigham Young that got that up. I bear record before God, angels and men that Joseph Smith received that revelation, and I bear record that Emma Smith gave her husband in marriage to several women while he was living, some of whom are to-day living in this city, and some may be present in this congregation, and who, if called upon, would confirm my words. But lo and behold, we hear of publication after publication now-a-days, declaring that Joseph Smith had nothing to do with these things. Joseph Smith himself organized every endowment in our Church and revealed the same to the Church, and he lived to receive every key of the Aaronic and Melchizedek priesthoods from the hands of the men who held them while in the flesh, and who hold them in eternity.” (In Journal of Discourses, 23:131.)

In their biography, Mormon Enigma, Linda King Newell and Valeen Tippetts Avery report that Emma witnessed several marriages of Joseph Smith to plural wives. However, throughout her lifetime Emma publicly denied knowledge of her husband's involvement in the practice of polygamy and denied on her deathbed that the practice had ever occurred. Emma claimed, “No such thing as polygamy, or spiritual wifery, was taught, publicly or privately, before my husband's death, that I have now, or ever had any knowledge of .... He had no other wife but me; nor did he to my knowledge ever have.” (Last Testimony of Sister Emma, Saint's Herald, Vol. 26, No 19. p. 289. (1 October 1879))

President Brigham Young taught at conference, “I want to say to my sisters that if you lift your heels against this revelation, and say that you would obliterate it, and put it out of existence if you had the power to nullify and destroy it, I say that if you imbibe that spirit and feeling, you will go to hell, just as sure as you are living women. Emma took that revelation, supposing she had all there was; but Joseph had wisdom enough to take care of it, and he had handed the revelation to Bishop Whitney, and he wrote it all off. After Joseph had been to Bishop Whitney’s he went home, and Emma began teasing for the revelation. Said she—“Joseph, you promised me that revelation, and if you are a man of your word you will give it to me.” Joseph took it from his pocket and said—"Take it.” She went to the fire-place and put it in, and put the candle under it and burnt it, and she thought that was the end of it, and she will be damned as sure as she is a living woman. Joseph used to say that he would have her hereafter, if he had to go to hell for her, and he will have to go to hell for her as sure as he ever gets her.” – President Brigham Young, Lehi City, Utah, August 9, 1874 (Journal of Discourses 17:159)

D&C 112:10. How Important Is Humility in Church Positions?
President Thomas B. Marsh’s pride led to his eventual apostasy. His excommunication is a poignant reminder that the Lord has counseled his Saints to be humble. “Pride was the weakness of Thomas B. Marsh. If he had been humble, he would not have fallen. He began by defying the righteous decisions of the High Council and the First Presidency, in a trivial case in which his wife was interested, and he ended by [opposing] the Church.” (Smith and Sjodahl, Commenta

Micah

3/20/2021 03:28:07 pm

Continued

ry, p. 733)

Thomas B. Marsh eventually repented and was rebaptized.

Some might be getting upset at this point in time and asking why is Emma important to this discussion? The answer to that is that there are many who openly teach of the prophesied return of Joseph Smith but these individuals almost exclusively seem to be RLDS or apostate members of the Church. They believe that Joseph Smith is coming back for their apostate churches and/or apostate members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, members who felt themselves “too righteous for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints so they had to leave it.” I am under the firm belief, a steadfast and immovable foundation and testimony, that Joseph Smith is going to return and he is going to return for the righteous remnant ie. the wheat in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and no other. One cannot opine that Emma will be saved in the highest degree of the celestial kingdom and still hold the belief that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is the Lord’s kingdom. Period. :’) To purport that Emma Bidamon (Emma remarried on Joseph Smith’s birthday by the way, so stop calling her Emma Smith) is bound for the highest degree of the celestial kingdom is to purport that President Brigham Young, President John Taylor, President Wilford Woodruff and President Lorenzo Snow etc were all fallen. And to put forth that all of those prophets holding the keys were fallen but yet the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is still yet somehow the kingdom of God on earth is to put forth your own ignorance to the world, yea, it is to declare your intelligence or lack thereof boldly to the world, for both cannot be true. The problem with those who think Joseph Smith is returning for some other church is that if the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints isn’t the Lord’s kingdom on the earth today, that would prove that Joseph Smith wasn’t a true prophet because none of the things he prophesied or the Book of Mormon prophesied of came true or can come true.

Justin Anderson

3/22/2021 06:18:08 pm

I wish you allowed comments on your YT channel. And that your work was open to feedback and criticism. I think you and others would be edified faster. And there would be, although uncomfortable, more bridge building versus things like calling out the young youtuber that has a different view on the seals.

I appreciate a lot of your work but fear you may over isolate so that the fresh water can’t rinse over you and the times and kaleidescopescontinue to unfold clarity.

Please consider a deep dive in understanding the history and context of JSH and specifically 1:41. Thing Millerites, and the Saints study of end times and gathering of Israel as we now do.

Consider Hinckley Oct 2001 GC proclamation that JSH 1:41 is now fulfilled. Consider the footnotes and scripture annotations for this versus. I think a clear modern day declaration and trump sounded. I don’t know how else to see it or why else it would be center stage and right lock step with 9/11 and Isaiah 30:25.

For your prayerful and humble consideration.

Micah

3/22/2021 06:42:40 pm

This email is why I don’t have comments turned on. I have received this same email a million times and have answered these “proofs” in multiple areas, including the Q and A section on my blog (where anybody can post). People are too lazy to do the work, but they are barely not too lazy to go down into a comment section and get confused by people who haven’t taken the time to learn.

I don’t have comments turned on because:
1. It always turns into priestcraft (I have never not seen it turn into priestcraft on an LDS YouTube channel, not once)
2. It is a breeding ground for ignorance
3. It is a breeding ground for contention
4. It supports Saints being lazy, thinking they can receive eternal truths with “quick answers”
5. The loudest and most obnoxious voice with the largest mob wins, truth does not.

To be learned is good if you hearken to the counsel of God; to build bridges is good, if you are building bridges to God and not to demons, devils and the philosophies of men. I will build bridges with anybody on God’s side. There isn’t a single “LDS YouTuber” who actively promotes other “LDS YouTubers” more than myself. PERIOD. You go to any other “LDS YouTuber”, click on their channels tab and realize they don’t suggest anyone else but themselves, their own priestcraft, and their own priestcraft merchandise.

If I had to answer 100 comments like this below each of my videos (which I would have to) I wouldn’t have any time to do anything else. I don’t just turn on the camera, read two scriptures and blab for 25 minutes aimlessly while mentioning all of my past callings and ways viewers can support me. I don’t just go onto FairMormon, choose an article, steal it and read it on my monetized channel and pass it off as my own work. I don’t do any of that. It takes a lot of time to do what I do and I provide it for free. Please forgive me if on top of that I don’t want to personally practice priestcraft or deal with ignoramuses.

Members feel entitled to you answering every one of their questions and concerns personally but don’t take the time to do a 5 minute search before shooting off their comments and emails. We are too quick to talk and too slow to listen. If anybody actually wants to sit down and have a conversation I would. But chances are the other person will just embarrass themselves because it will expose them as not taking more than 5 minutes looking for the answers I have already put out. Many predominant LDS YouTubers have refused to talk with me, choosing instead to hide behind their ignorant mobs and complain about me not having comments turned on. I would love to have one on one’s, these people want their mobs vs me.

God bless, God speed, keep the faith

Micah

Justin Anderson

3/22/2021 06:44:41 pm

I’m impressed you responded but wish response were a bit different. I have seen all of Troy and Defending Zion vids etc. You promote those that agree w you. I believe in Priestcraft but I think your interpretation is too far. And you presumed I picked up my info off a monetized site which I didn’t.

You QA is managed and not searchable. I have been through most of it and I have not seen JSH 1:41 and Hinckley’s Oct 2001 talk discussed/dissected by you or in the website comments.

My inquiry is simple. Interested in how you Interpret that and was suggesting you open yourself to true edifying with others. Even if it is messy. That is how life works if one really wants to grow. We all can learn from everybody.

That’s all.

Sincerely,

Brother Justin

Micah

3/22/2021 06:49:04 pm

“I wish [your] response [was] a bit different” + “You only promote those that agree with you” = Hypocrisy

Apparently you only like responses that agree with you…

1. I don’t agree with Troy on about everything, so lumping him in with Defending Zion, once again, shows how little you actually know about me

2. I promote those that agree with pure doctrine as taught in the Lord’s restored church, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saint. I leave the “opinions” and “opines” of men for other channels

3. It doesn’t matter what you or I think, only what the Lord thinks, and the Lord has been and is crystal clear on priestcraft. You can tell me all you want that “I don’t believe that dropping my drawers and having sex with a woman I PLAN on marrying is a sin to the Lord”, it doesn’t make you right. You likewise can stretch the plain interpretation of priestcraft all you want, you’re still wrong.

4. I made no such assumptions about who you watched or didn’t watch. I was talking in generalities about comment sections in general not you specifically. I know nothing about you as to allow me to make such a specific judgement about you; ergo I didn’t and I wouldn’t. Other things you have clearly shown allow me to judge wisely other specifics, but not this.

5. “You QA is managed and not searchable”, first off that is a terrible sentence, secondly you are wrong on both accounts. There is a search function for the website as well as the use of “Ctrl + F” which would take you right to where I answered the question!

This is why I have comments turned off mate, I love you but I don’t have time to explain “Ctrl + F” to everyone on the internet! I do open myself up to questions, I do answer them, but people like yourself can’t or won’t be bothered to look for them for 5 seconds and thus, once again, proves the futility of comments! It took me literally, LITERALLY less than 5 seconds to find the question and answer on here. Now, you tell me, what could I possibly learn from people who can’t spend 5 seconds looking for answers? You believe they understand the mysteries? I know they don’t. This would be like opening up comments to a million “but it says no one shall add to or take away from the Bible!”, like seriously? This is adding to the LOGOS of the conversation? Look for the answer above, Gabriel asked the question.

Justin Anderson

3/22/2021 06:51:14 pm

This could/should be more edifying :) . FYI, control/alt/del may be available on computers, but not smart devices.

Thank you for sending your response.

What are you quoting from Hyrum Andrus? Because I have him stating clearly that Christ doesn’t come at the end of The 6th nor the beginning of the 7th seal. Plus he taught that the 144k were busy during the 21 years of silence after the 7th opened in preparation for ushering in the millennial period. Gap. Plus 3.5 actually. He is on tape.

So if he were to quote Joel after 2001 I would say he is saying exactly what Hinckley intended. The 6th seal is now fulfilled. Moroni to Jospeh Smith not yet and Hinckley told us now. The footnote Rev 6:12 certainly is not making the point that a moon or part of the seal is now done. He could have just as easily said Rev 6 is now fulfilled. But that would have made it too easy for the Saints and further brought Babylons ire.

I write to you because I do look. I like a lot of what you have done. But I think this point is worth reconsidering and I see a lot of folks share your macro timeline etc. But it stops there when they are challenged to explain etc. And when a few took on the tone to re-mock the young lady that has a channel because she is struggling I thought I would test how interactive you are.

I appreciate you interacting.

Micah

3/22/2021 06:55:04 pm

It’s a website designed for web browsing, it is not designed for phone use- it is a website we put up with our own money for family and friends, all of which have PC’s…

I get that “this exchange could be edifying” but frankly only for one person. I put out papers that address all these questions and so does Brother Hyrum Andrus. This will be my last reply because frankly it is obvious you haven’t seriously read or listened to Brother Hyrum Andrus, Blake, myself, etc. I just don’t have the time, these are, once again frankly, basic level understanding questions that I don’t have the time to answer one at a time like I have been doing.

ANSWER:
Brother Hyrum Andrus absolutely taught that Christ comes at the end of the 6th and the beginning of the 7th and also well into the 7th seal- different comings (his lecture was literally called “The THREE Divisions of Christ’s Coming”). One to Saints (His presence) and leaders of the church which are 6th seal events, second to those gathered who have built the New Jerusalem (which opens the 7th), third to Old Jerusalem at the Mt of Olives (7th seal) and lastly to the world (well into the 7th seal). If you have a quote from Brother Hyrum Andrus saying “that Christ doesn’t come at the end of The 6th nor the beginning of the 7th seal” he was referring to the Great and Dreadful Day, which yes, obviously comes after the half an hour of silence after the 7th seal has been opened. Different comings.

You could say that, but you’d be 100% wrong. Brother Hryum Andrus maintained to his death (occurred post 2000) that we were still in the 6th seal because the events at the New Jerusalem open the 7th seal. Period.

“And when a few took on the tone to re-mock the young lady that has a channel because she is struggling I thought I would test how interactive you are.”

I have no idea what that sentence was even trying to be. It is clear (painfully) that you haven’t read or listened to Brother Hyrum Andrus or myself, you heard or read something you didn’t like- apparently someone “mocking” someone else “who was struggling”, I have no idea who or what that could be- and you decided to white knight and challenge me without having the first clue about what myself or Brother Hyrum Andrus were explaining. I don’t condone and will never condone attacking people, let alone “people struggling” (once again, I have no idea what this even means) if people who listen to myself are doing that, they should stop. I’ve never attacked anyone personally, I have absolutely attacked doctrines people are putting forth that are not pure doctrines of the Kingdom. I will continue to do so.

I am very easy to get in contact with and will converse so long as the party is acting in good faith and has taken the time to know the doctrine before “critiquing” it. I’ve said I will do the same for any “LDS YouTuber” as well- once I get enough information to judge wisely I move on, my time is valuable to me.

What you are asking are basic level questions, anyone of the people who listen to myself or Brother Hyrum Andrus would be able to answer you- I highly doubt, HIGHLY doubt, that you asked them these questions and “they were stumped”. If you have further questions I humbly suggest actually watching/reading myself or Brother Hyrum Andrus, finding the question on this Q&A.

Justin Anderson

3/22/2021 06:57:34 pm

“an unruffled heart.” You know. But, water under the bridge

I have listened to it all(even all of Blakes)…

I am aware of when Hyrum passed away. I also just re-reviewed the entire section from his series on this and your 7th seal paper. Maybe, it is so obvious and basic that you might have missed Hyrum's message of section 77, silence period after 2000 etc because it wasn’t complex or intriguing enough. Rhetorical: will you be able to change anything you hold tight to, as things clarify and perhaps rectify some closely held notions? Hyrum actually uses his eating chaff analogy right here, and I can tell you like it with your chaff sandwich commentary. Ironically, I think you missed his series of event…he emphatically say’s NJ is after 7 seal and after 21 years. I will depart that we will agree to disagree, respectfully. Pro-tip. Do that in the future. You can just say you are not interested in communicating further or ignore it altogether.

And in turn, God's faith, speed and blessing too. Truly.

I will continue to watch for your insights and personal development.

Take care.

Justin

Cheers.

tropicalflower

3/23/2021 02:32:09 pm

Justin, you actually can do "control find" on smart phones. First, get to the page you want, there's a button on the top of the phone screen, drop drown menu and then click on "Find in Page". Easy and extremely useful.

Jared

3/23/2021 08:37:01 am

Hello,

I recently came across your channel and have been listening to many of the previous videos. Of course the Second Coming and the lead up events are on the minds of many in our current climate but have been an interest of mine for as long as I can remember.
I have to ask though, I was listening to your recent video and I just want to make sure I heard you right. Did you say Elder Bruce R Mcconkie was getting things wrong in his analysis of last days? Or did I miss understand something or miss something somewhere?

Thanks in advance,

Jared

Micah

3/23/2021 08:38:37 am

Hey Jared,

Elder Bruce R. McConkie himself over the course of his own life said that he had gotten some things wrong in his analysis’s- meaning he changed his mind. I think you said it yourself, his “analysis”. Elder Bruce R. McConkie said a lot, and a lot of what he said was different than what, let’s say, President Brigham Young said… One of these men had to be right and one had to be wrong in their analysis wouldn’t you agree? This is why when I source I explain that I personally “put weight” on certain sources over others. If I have a direct quote from the Prophet Joseph Smith and I have a quote from let’s say Elder Bruce R. McConkie and they are contradictory in nature, I will put more weight on Joseph’s words. Elder Bruce R. McConkie couldn’t get the brethren of his time to agree that what he was teaching and putting forth was doctrine (Mormon Doctrine), meaning there were disagreements with his analysis of events and doctrine even among the brethren. He never got his books endorsed and then had to go out and self publish without the church’s seal.

Now, this isn’t to say I don’t like the man! I use Mormon Doctrine in half my videos, but do I think that some of his analysis’s aren’t correct? You better believe it. Like I’ve said in countless videos/papers, if I have another source I weigh higher I’ll stick with that understanding, sources for which I always provide so people can make their own decisions. I don’t ever stick or attempt to stick “Micah’s analysis” of ANYTHING above that of apostles, prophets, etc. Who cares what I personally think? But I will put forth quotes from Elder O. Pratt above Elder Bruce R. McConkie in some cases. I always try to list the arguments for multiple sides and explain clearly why I personally side with one or the other. I do this far more than any LDS YouTube or writer I have found to date. Period.

God bless God speed and keep the faith Jared!

Micah

Jared

3/23/2021 08:39:39 am

Hey Micah,

Thanks for your response! I really appreciate it. I was unaware that he came out and said he was backing off his analysis.
I will admit I found some of his "teachings" difficult to swallow but figured it was simply my pride vs false doctrine. I figured if it was taught by a prophet... Especially in the more modern church. I get why Brigham Young would go out of his way to get people to search if what he was saying was true. He was changing people's mindset.
Anyway, I also get how wisdom comes with age and I'm sure we have all realized certain beliefs or thought processes have evolved or changed with the passage of time. I suppose he is no different.
I appreciate the amount of work you put in for sure. I have been trying to go back through what I remember in my studies as well but time has been difficult.
I'm wondering though, do you know of any official sources from the Church that have laid out the time-line in a similar manner as you have? Or perhaps another scholar who has written a book or such that follows your time-line of events similarly?
I ask because in all the books I have read on the subject, I haven't quite seen one laid out this way.
While I understand you are using scripture and "weighted quotes" in you analysis, so to have many of the scholars I have read. I'm just wondering if there are other scholars who have followed the same chain of events this way?
I haven't had a chance to go over all of your stuff yet, I am trying to pick back through it. Do you have places where you go over Gog and Magog? The calling home of the missionaries as well when the Temple in Jerusalem will be rebuilt? I also thought there was supposed to be a peace treaty that was signed by Isreal and the Arab nations that started the 3 1/2 years of peace before the Arab nations broke the treaty and started war for 3 1/2 years. That was when the two prophets held off Gog and Magog before being killed and laying in the street for 3 1/2 days before being resurrected? Just before Christ appears at the Mount of Olives.
Like I said, I haven't had a chance to get to all of it yet so you may have covered it somewhere already.
Again, I appreciate your work and will continue to study and learn!

Thanks a bunch!

Micah

3/23/2021 08:41:11 am

All of that is pretty accurate and is in my timeline. Brother Hyrum Andrus was a “scholar” with a very very similar timeline. You can find some of his work still up on YouTube even on a channel “Light and Truth”. Brother Hyrum Andrus “weighs sources” very similar to how I do. That being said Elder Bruce R. McConkie also agrees with a lot of my timeline, I use his quotes in The Macro Last-Day Timeline Part I

Gerald N. Lund shares similar viewpoints.

Also this patriarch lays out word for word the same doctrine:

https://youtu.be/PwCaY1N5o_M

Although “scholars” frankly are at the dead BOTTOM of my “weighted sources”. They are keyless, and thus worthless unless they are quoting someone with keys!

God bless God speed keep the faith

Jared

3/23/2021 08:43:10 am

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Jared

3/23/2021 08:44:05 am

So, are you saying that all the LDS doctrinal handbooks that are endorsed by modern day prophets and apostles as church approved teaching don't actually know what they are talking about but you do?

Also, I noticed you cited Robert Millet to further drive home your point but in so many other places you have been adamant that scholars not be used. You can see how this would seem hypocritical, right?

And though Lectures on Faith is very informative, it isn't recognized as scripture so again, if that's all you are using, this to would need to be left out.

Micah

3/23/2021 08:46:26 am

1. I never said that church endorsed handbooks and manuals are garbage and shouldn’t be used, I use them all the time

2. The LDS Manuals are not endorsed and personally read by every prophet, that would literally be impossible for them, it would be like saying “every Sunday School teacher is personally endorsed by the leadership”, it/they aren’t. It’s a calling in the church run without keys for institute. I will provide below a quote from President Benson explaining that point crystal clear

3. I also never said “don’t use or quote scholars”, I have said there isn’t a lick spit of difference between them or myself and I have said that if there is ever a conflict between “scholars” and Joseph Smith, I will 100% side with Joseph Smith. It isn’t a zero sum gain, it is a weighted game where I weight keys and Joseph Smith higher. Absolutely zero hypocrisy in that.

4. Lectures on Faith was written by Joseph Smith and was in LDS scriptures for over a hundred years- once again, if modern apostles or modern scholars disagree with the lectures on faith I personally will side my understanding with Joseph Smith. The same arguments could and have been made about Joseph Smith’s personal lectures and teachings (The Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith). Once again, same concept, if people want to limit them that’s on them, I personally will side with the prophet Joseph Smith and the keys (remember it is only the President who can change or declare doctrine) over scholars or apostles.

"The world worships the learning of man. They trust in the arm of flesh (see D&C 1:19). To them, man's reasoning is greater than God's revelations. The precepts of man have gone so far in the educational system that in many cases, a higher degree today, in the so-called social sciences can be tantamount to a major investment in error. Very few men can build firmly enough on the rock of revelation to go through this kind of indoctrination and come out untainted. Unfortunately, of those who succumb, some use their higher degree to get teaching positions even in our Church Educational System, where they spread the falsehoods they have been taught. President Joseph Fielding Smith was right when he said that false educational ideas would be one of the threats to the Church within."
-Ezra Taft Benson; God, Family & Country

Also, two things,

1. I retain the rights to publish all emails sent to me in my family Q&A, they become my property (exactly like a letter) as soon as they are sent to me. If you don’t like that idea I ask humbly that you A) reconsider and B) if you won’t reconsider stop emailing because if it is a “common question” sent to me I will transfer it over to the website Q&A so I don’t have to answer the same questions multiple times
2. Why would you send me an email asking me for a money donation yesterday and then once you didn’t get a donation send this today? You think it is appropriate to solicit money from random people online and then when you don’t get it become hostile with them?

God bless Jared, God speed and always keep the faith

Micah

Mark Urry

3/24/2021 11:52:22 am

Will you please do an "Understanding Isaiah" for Chapter 18,19, 20 and 21 ?

These chapters appear to me to be directly and highly relevant to Last Days western culture, the tribulations and judgements upon us that will shortly come to fruition.

Micah

4/3/2021 11:30:26 am

More Understanding Isaiah is on the list, along with more Understanding Revelation...

Tracy Martinez

3/27/2021 08:28:45 pm

I was reading the scriptures tonight with my husband after reading your satan unifies, God divides paper. This scripture I think encapsulates the thesis perfectly.

Alma 30:53, 60
53 But behold, the devil hath deceived me; for he appeared unto me in the form of an angel, and said unto me: Go and reclaim this people, for they have all gone astray after an unknown God. And he said unto me: There is no God; yea, and he taught me that which I should say. And I have taught his words; and I taught them because they were pleasing unto the carnal mind; and I taught them, even until I had much success, insomuch that I verily believed that they were true; and for this cause I withstood the truth, even until I have brought this great curse upon me.

And thus we see the end of him who perverteth the ways of the Lord; and thus we see that the devil will not support his children at the last day, but doth speedily drag them down to hell.

Thanks for all you do.

Micah

4/17/2021 10:00:54 am

That scripture is perfect. We'll add it to the bottom of the paper. Thanks for sharing!

Daniel

3/31/2021 12:26:36 pm

Hi Micah,

Thanks for the Brother of Jared video! The story makes a lot more sense now. However, who else has taught it this way before? Hyrum Andrus? A general authority?

One reason for the confusion is because church leaders teach it the way you described. Here is Elder McConkie quoted in the Book of Mormon Student manual: "Elder Bruce R. McConkie (1915–85) of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles explained that the Lord requires us to use our agency as we seek His help. Regarding the brother of Jared’s experience, Elder McConkie said: “The Lord talked to him about it a little and then he said this: ‘What will ye that I should do that ye may have light in your vessels?’ (Ether 2:23.) In effect, ‘What are you asking me for? This is something you should have solved.’ And he talked a little more, and he repeated in essence the question: ‘What will ye that I should prepare for you that ye may have light when ye are swallowed up in the depths of the sea?’ (Ether 2:25.) In other words, ‘Moriancumer, this is your problem. Why are you troubling me? I’ve given you your agency; you are endowed with capacity and ability. Get out and solve the problem’"

Now, Elder McConkie didn't say it was random, but he didn't imply that Ether was to look to the scriptures or to what he knew happened previously with Noah. Also, Elder McConkie did imply with this statement that it was Ether's ingenuity that figured it out.

To his credit, I heard Elder McConkie say that if you want to learn about topic A, then start with Genesis and read all the standard works looking for topic A. If you want to learn about topic B, then start with Genesis and read all the standard works looking for topic B. That's a lot of scripture reading for a busy dad!

In a fireside to CES teachers, Elder Bednar invited the teachers to look for "eyes to see" and "ears to hear" in all the scriptures without using the find feature. Sounds like the Elder McConkie quote. It sounds like something special would happen if you do so.

Anyway, given the standard church understanding of the brother of Jared, this makes you ask yourself, What else are we totally missing as members of the Church?! Thanks for all your videos.

Daniel

4/2/2021 09:56:12 am

Thanks, English family, for all you do!

Perhaps I speak for many, but I feel like you are giving away the secrets of the universe. You have spent years studying and understanding the scriptures while I have just been skimming the surface all these years. (I cannot foresee how I could even come close to the interpretations/connections you made in those parables, Isaiah chapters, and Revelation chapters, even if I had a million years on my hands.) It's like I didn't even know that such understanding of the scriptures was possible. I feel like I have been drinking milk all these years without even knowing that there is something called "meat."

I don't believe that I deserve this extra knowledge. Though I am super grateful for it, because I haven't done the work that you have done, I feel like I am unable to fully appreciate the extra knowledge and treasure it as much as you. I feel like I am cheating on life's test that I have been failing (or, rather, getting a solid C, maybe C+).

Lastly, some of this new understanding is "hard." Double the size of your ward or stake? Have more than 3 kids? Isaiah and the Book of Mormon is actually talking to me and the church (and not just non-members) when it is giving out warnings and judgments? I sure hope they don't call me as a bishop! :)

Bernie Steele

4/3/2021 10:20:04 am

So far you called it Micah. Passive aggressive Christlike attributes. I also saw all wearing a mask except president Eyring

Micah

4/3/2021 04:31:15 pm

Jodi Stoddard:
It has come to my attention that you have some grace misconceptions and beliefs of who I am and what I believe and share.
I am offering to clear up the false narrative and absolute lies that are out there about me. You are of course free to believe what you want to – but that in no way makes it true. Meanwhile I am asking that you please stop bearing false witness against me. It is not of Christ, and last I checked, scriptures say it is a grace sin. Again, I am totally open for questions if you would like to know what I really believe… (I do NOT believe I have been ordained to the 144k for example…)
I hope you will show your integrity and do the honorable and Christ-like thing by stopping the slander and seeking truth.
Thank you.
Have a blessed day.

Micah:
I apologize if I ever said you personally believe that you’ve been called or ordained to the 144k I don’t frankly know where or why I would have said that…I have said that you teach every member CAN be a 144k including women which isn’t accurate but that’s not the same thing
Whenever people ask me about you I always tell them that I believe you to be a good member in good standing who teaches some doctrine I believe is objectively wrong, I’ve never slandered you personally
I have grouped you in with people who believe we’re in the 7th seal, pre-tribulation translation and rapture etc. which are in your videos
And some of THEM absolutely claim to be ordained to the 144k and to have seen Jesus (Masa being one such) I have the documentation of him openly claiming and teaching it
So if he wants to deny it I’ll publish the emails and documentation of what he’s teaching in the dark
But I’ve never claimed or said YOU did or taught that
Slander is wrong and I know more than anyone the problem and sting. If I’ve said anything about you PERSONALLY that’s incorrect please point me to specifics and provide clarity and I will for sure correct my errors
Chances are the information you’ve been fed is from a third party not acting in good faith, I highly HIGHLY doubt you’ve read/watched my papers and have witnessed this “slander” firsthand because I know of none against you personally
If you personally don’t like being associated with that group it’s on you to publicly distance yourself from them because they are attaching themselves to you via their YouTube channel
I’ve had to do the same with RLDS attaching my work about the prophesy of the return of Joseph Smith to their groups, that’s on us

Jodi:
In your first comment about what I believe and share pertaining to the 144k, there are misconceptions pertaining to what you think I have shared versus how you translate the scriptures…Meanwhile that isn’t what I am referring to.. I am okay if we have a difference of opinion (even though some of what you say I believe even in that first response is incorrect)
Meanwhile- why publicly or privately attack anyone? You do not need to defend your works and understanding by going after another’s interpretation. You may also be wrong.
When I watched a group of people go after folks like Julie Rowe, regardless of whether her ideas had gone astray or not, was not the point. I stepped into say that “if” she was having a church crisis- the ONLY thing we should be doing is showing forth more love, not stone her as we drove her from our sanctuaries. That caused a bunch of people to go after me.
Meanwhile, I would NEVER be so bold as to tell people what they had or had not received as revelation for themselves. That is between them and the Lord. And why should we shun those who see things differently? Again-not Christlike…And very condemning and judgmental- also not Christlike.
You and I can degree and have different opinions- but throwing each other under the bus for any reason is not acceptable. IMHO Jesus Unites- satan divides. PERIOD. 😊
Meanwhile I have asked you politely not to accuse and slander me…or anyone for that matter. Name calling and grouping people is also what the Pharisees were doing in Christ’s day and exactly why He left the Church fold to go after those who had purer hearts. Don’t become like the. Those who do the persecuting never fair well in the end.
I hope you will seek understanding and Charity all while honoring the agency of others.
I hope only best for you- sincerely.

Micah:
As to your first point the same thing could be said about Nehor- why go after him? Should prophets not go after people specifically like Karl Marx, Darwin, etc?
Christ commanded us to judge and do so wisely, over and over again…it’s false doctrine at worse and misconception at best to teach otherwise. If what people are teaching is wrong it needs to be corrected-personal revelation does not supersede revealed doctrine and should be called out

Micah

4/3/2021 04:33:02 pm

Jodi:
So thein lies the crux of the issue and why I brought it up in the first place. You believe me and others of being Nehors. I am asking you to seek more understanding- and then even ask God if that is your job to call people out? If so, that is between you and God.
If you feel justified in that thing by spreading gossip and false rumors-even under the guise and false assumptions of them being true, then we have nothing left to discuss.
I wish you the best- truly.

Micah:
What specifically have I spread that is false regarding you?
“Every member a missionary”
How does one teach that this is the only true and living church without saying other’s faith is incomplete or incorrect?
Yes, yes the Lord has commanded us to do that specifically
And so I’ll continue to do that…but if there is ever something that I say about anyone (or what they are teaching) that is proven to be false I gladly accept correction and will repent!

Jodi:
I was going to say more- but your understanding of what is your “duty” and mine are incorrect.
First you say you haven’t said certain things about men and then you say them ‘to’ me… I will not argue with someone who is seeking their own justification and not seeking truth or Charity.
I really wish you well.

Micah:
I never said you were Nehor Jodi, or Karl Marx…
But you’re correct that our understanding of our duty and charity is different
I believe true charity would be yelling at the top of your lungs “stay on the path! Hold to the rod! What you’re doing is wrong!” (Lehi, Nephi, pretty much every missionary/prophet etc) While apparently you believe charity is just accepting and loving them while they bring people off the path and away from the rod.
I get that there’s two fundamentally different view points

Jodi:
That is not what I am saying about Charity. I didn’t agree with what Julie Rowe got into (although I have seen accused of being her “disciple”)- but I never extrapolated on what it nor did I accuse her… The way she was treated was terrible.

Micah:
How was she treated? I don’t know what you think is appropriate?
Attacking her personally is wrong but attacking view or teachings or doctrines I not only view as appropriate I know it’s commanded
I knew NOTHING of the connection between you and Julie

Jodi:
WITH LOVE…

Micah:
I know basically nothing about Julie
But what does that mean to you?
Love as taught by the Savior was pure undiluted blunt truth, “get thee behind me Satan!”
It’s love but might not sound “nice”

Jodi:
Jesus unites- satan divides
Jesus heals- satan condemns
Jesus teaches with peace- satan causes contention

Micah:
“my word is a two edge sword cutting asunder”

Jodi:
Gossip can be truth or falsehoods- but the Church is clear on the spreading of it- look it up on the church website

Micah:
“I have not come to unite but to divide”
“Mother against daughter, brother against father”

Jodi:
We see it differently- Best of luck to you. I am done. 😊

Micah:
Once again, if I’ve said “gossip” things that are wrong please point them out and I’ll repent
God bless you Jodi, God speed and keep the faith
Luck has nothing to do with your or my future 😊
Also, I’d like this conversation to be public…I know that you understand that we shouldn’t keep things in the dark 😊

Camille Clark

4/5/2021 10:41:27 pm

Micah, I would love to see you and Blake host a group study of Lectures on Faith. You two could help moderate the discussion and assign weekly segments. Then we can all gather on Blake’s platform and discuss and teach one another. I know you and Blake have mentioned wanting to step back and let others find truths for themselves. But I think if we have a few to monitor and keep the discussion on doctrinal truths then the group could progress more smoothly. Just a thought. I love talking the meat with others but find it hard to find those that do too.

Micah

4/17/2021 09:59:00 am

Thanks for the suggestion. The fireside on May 9 will be Lecture of Faith- Lecture One!

Micah

4/9/2021 06:56:22 pm

Someone mentioned that it was strange that President Nelson told us to "study all the promises to the House of Israel" but then didn't follow up on it this conference... I believe he did and I just figured it out today studying in the D&C manual for 45 (guys, this is the chapter he referenced) 45: 32 under the section "Stand in Holy Places"

Quote President Harold B. Lee "How shall we find places of safety?... as one studies the Lord's commands and attending promises upon compliance therewith, one gets some definite ideas as to how we might 'stand in holy places', as the Lord commands- if we will be preserved with such protection as accords with his holy purposes, in order that we might be numbered among the 'pure in heart' who [shall] constitute Zion, as I have read from the Lord's own words" (in conference report Oct 1968, pp61-62)

If we studied we would have figured out "where to stand in Holy places" and made ourselves numbered among those worthy for New Jerusalem (Zion) He, in this conference, went over "standing in Holy places" etc… Once again, another brutal identifier of the macro-last day timeline as well as confirmation of "the test, the Test, the TEST" as well as the reward... It also explains his frustration - people's lazy study, their "laziness" over something so trivial, is/will bar them from the blessings shortly to be given to the Saints

Also, Brother Ricks called in during the last fireside and asked me "what papers do you write and then bury!?" Well, for example I will provide below the title of a paper and all the scriptures + references I used but no commentary. Maybe people can read the references in the order I provide them and be taught by the Spirit... Maybe they will also know why I bury some papers and don't make them public!

The Boomers: Untimely Figs
D&C 45: 24-38
D&C 101: 47-51
Rev 6: 12-13
IE footnote for verse 13
D&C 101: 51-56
D&C 97: 7-12, 22-26
D&C 112: 23-26
Elder Anderson's talk "Spiritual Whirlwinds"
President Nelson's talk "Becoming True Millennials"

Pay close attention to the word association as you read through them in order...

God bless God speed and keep the faith!

Pam Peterson

4/14/2021 06:56:55 am

I haven't heard you reference this talk by ETB, but it's a good one. Given to BYU students in 1981. Reinforcement for This Generation. Enjoy

https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/ezra-taft-benson/prepare-great-day-lord/

Allon Owen

4/16/2021 04:46:30 pm

I am not a social media geek. I have just subscribed and started to listen to you on youtube. Where can I find the "papers written by you" that you often refer to?

Micah

4/17/2021 09:55:37 am

In the description box of each youtube video I put a link to the exact page that the paper is on where you can download it in Word, PDF or audio file.

Also on the main page of The II LDS Archives you can find different sections, such as "Understanding Isaiah" or "Last Days"- click on the picture and it will take you to the papers that fall into those categories.

https://www.tihie.com/lds-archives.html

Micah

6/23/2021 03:26:49 pm

This is something I am not grateful enough for... Receiving the gift of the Spirit to understand scriptures... If I didn't have this gift I might have to go to people like Gileadi's work...

We talk a lot of "setting ourselves up as lights" and "priestcraft"- I can't think of a single person (formally excommunicated, who doesn't have a single reference in our LDS student manuals) who has created more secret combinations and "selective elitist groups" than than that of Gileadi...

Jake Hilton, MR, Mike Shroud, Jodie, even Julie Rowe all had and used varying degrees of his work as their foundation... Might have some good insights but the priestcraft and darkness is blatant.

I've gotten two emails just this week alone asking me about this guy... MR makes you BUY and then read his work as a prerequisite to "join his club"... I've spoken out harshly against Rush's books, Visions of Glory, etc.

Nothing, NOTHING scares me more than Gileadi...

Those others pick off the low hanging fruit- Gileadi seems to be aimed primarily at the elect...

Take that for what it is worth or not worth @everyone it might be worth nothing, do what you think is best

I will be posting this same response on my families Q&A, once again, two times asked about it this week alone... I can't be "against priestcraft" and suckling Gileadi... People know my "pyramid of truth"...

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